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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

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  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  cofty

  They do work. - VWORg

  No they don't. Blindfold everybody apart from one observer who does not touch the glass and I guarantee you it will stop working.
  
  
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  Casting Out DEMONS

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if someone believes they're being plagued with demons or they have problems with hauntings, things moving by themselves or hearing voices or footsteps, who they gonna call?

  i know they take demons very seriously, so who in the congregation do they go to when they need to bring out the big guns?

  do they try to handle it themselves or is this a job for the elders?

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  cofty

  There are no demons FFS!

  
  
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  John's Two Witnesses...Who Are/Were They?

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. bible

  do the scripture writers at hq allow for any scriptural exegesis that recognizes the state of israel as fulfillment of ancient prophecy?

  isaiah, for example, writes: .

  and it shall come to pass in that day, that the lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from assyria, and from egypt, and from pathros, and from cush, and from elam, and from shinar, and from hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

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  Christians who use ancient books to justify political decisions that lead to thousands of deaths are dangerous idiots.
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  John's Two Witnesses...Who Are/Were They?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do the scripture writers at hq allow for any scriptural exegesis that recognizes the state of israel as fulfillment of ancient prophecy?

  isaiah, for example, writes: .

  and it shall come to pass in that day, that the lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from assyria, and from egypt, and from pathros, and from cush, and from elam, and from shinar, and from hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

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  Russell was a Zionist. In modern times the WT have applied all references to Israel as applying to "spiritual Israel" = 144,000
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  Carl Olof Jonsson correspondence with Watchtower

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in case any collectors don't have these yet:.

  correspondence 1977-1980 between carl olof jonsson and the watchtower society.

  http://kristenfrihet.se/english/corr.htm.

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  Thank you I will be reading these in detail later.
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  Biblical incidents that bothered me.

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

  these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

  perhaps this led to my awakening.

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  God can do whatever it takes to bring me relief.

  hahahaha
  
  
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  In what decade was it clearly apparent that Watchtower was a high control religion?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i'm just curious to get people's views on this.. the bible students seem to start of as quite a liberal group under charles taze russell, albeit he had some whacky teachings going on.

  obviously things began to change under rutherford.

  but what decade did it become abundantly clear that the society was indeed high control religion or even labeled a cult?.

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  What LisaRose said here...

  Russell initially rejected calls from his many subscribers to form an organization. He said that they should stay in whatever church they attended and that Jesus knew his sheep.
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  Superpower after perfection?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  there is much speculation about our perfect life ahead.

  a big way jw's are wrong is they do not allow for the human need to specualte on this life ahead.

  except for governing body, no one else can speculate.

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  Please tell us you meant that OP as a joke.
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  What do you think is the origin of Giants and/or Sasquatch?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  2. friends

  genesis says a lot about both pre-flood and post-flood giants.the really big nasty ones drowned in the flood but there were lots of others the israelites had to overcome including the king of basham with his 11 foot iron bed.people nowadays are much smaller and i think its due in part to us losing more and more of adams perfection.

  i turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the ark but are as yet undiscovered.

  during president knorr's time the panda bear was discovered in a market place in china and eventually an american team tracked them down in the wild.

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  I think its due in part to us losing more and more of Adams perfection.

  Humans did not fall from perfection. Humans evolved from non-human ancestors over millions of years. The evidence for this fact is beyond all reasonable doubt.

  I turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the Ark

  There was no global flood. The millions of species alive today could not evolve from the few types that could fit on a boat in a few thousand years.

  You are entitled to can have your own your own opinions but you don't get to have your own "facts".
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  True or False did the Watchtower Corporation create false doctrines intentionally to enhance the proliferation of their own publications ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  much as been revealed over the years to the date setting doctrines made by the wts.

  such as ( 1874, 1914, 1925 , 1975 this generation, the last days, the end times etc.... which were not created by other christian based faiths.. as to critically examine why might reveal a hidden agenda to all these date setting proclamations.. the point in question is did the wts and its leaders intentionally manipulate or exploit the preaching of the gospel to enhance the proliferation of their own printed publications ?.

  i would say convincingly yes, no question.

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  Because Franz already picked up this concept by reading Russell's literature. He just reused it in 1941 and then again in the late 1960's.

  Yes but how does that make it a lie?

  Call it bullshit if you will...

  I was acknowledging that the claim that humans have only been around for 6000 years is bullshit.