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Posts by cofty
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113No Bible = No God?
by menrov insome doubt about the bible completely, some partially.
what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.
would you still believe in a creator?.
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No Bible = No God?
by menrov insome doubt about the bible completely, some partially.
what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.
would you still believe in a creator?.
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cofty
Guru Sathya Sri Baba only died in 1984. His list of 'miracles' including resurrections makes Jesus look like a child's party entertainer.
In one example four men travelled from Australia to visit him in India. As they waited an attendant came out to ask one of them to come in as Sri Baba had a message for him. One of his family back home was ill and he needed to return urgently. He asked him to point out on a map on the wall where he was from. The man pointed to Australia and the guru touched the map which turned into a detailed map of Australia. He pointed again and again in increasing detail until he could identify his home. Then the guru invited him to step through the map and he would be transported immediately to his family.
The man never came back out of the room.
The attendants will testify to this miracle. So will the man's three friends and so will the man himself as will his family.
This happened just a few decades ago. It was recorded within days. The names of the witnesses are known and still alive. How many 'indisputable facts' do you think we could enumerate?
And yet we both know this story is bullshit. Probably based on wishful thinking, exaggeration, lies chinese whispers and self-promotion.
Jesus' body almost certainly rotted in a mass grave or rubbish tip in Jerusalem. His presence with his followers was in the same sense that millions of others vividly feel the presence of dead loved ones. It is a human response to grief and loss. In time the 'spiritual' experience acquired literal details like a muddled story of an empty tomb as one disciple after another vied for the most profound experience of his presence.
The truth is almost always more mundane.
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In case you want to see mass quantities of ignorance / stupidity on display....a dinosaur thread on JWTalk
by sir82 inhttps://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/34840-what-does-the-bible-say-about-dinosaurs/.
amazing how many words can be expended discussing things that people have utterly no clue about..
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cofty
All of them terrified to consult an actual scientific source.
They live in a bubble of ignorance that is matched by their certainty.
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Solicitors Visit Update
by pale.emperor inin case you're not aware of my last two threads:.
the situation that arose in that my mother has been having secret access to my daughter and refusing to tell me how she is: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here.
the build up to my solicitors visit: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6284953638666240/solicitors-appontment-tomorrow-advice-appreciated.
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cofty
Excellent outcome.
It's important that a law firm specializing in family law are aware of these issues. Good work!
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Slang or Terms Only Used by Bethelities
by new boy inthere are many terms used at bethel that might sound foreign to normal people.
there are many words or terms used at bethel that are unique only to their organization.
here are just a few of them.. “a jack” this is someone who is a slacker or just lazy.. “a pot licker” this term has been used for many years but its connotation is unclear.
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cofty
Reading the OP reminded me of Jenna Miscavige's autobiography. She grew up to be a member of Scientology's elite 'Sea Org'. A lot of similarities.
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The Day I Discovered My Dog Was Trans
by LoveUniHateExams inhi, my name is curtis williams and i’m twelve years old.
me and my family live in tennessee.
my daddy wanted to buy a dog to protect our family.
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cofty
listed some 450 different animal species, including dogs and wolves, as having been observed having homosexual fun and games
Actually homosexual behaviour has been observed in around 1,500 species from insects to mammals, although it is usually more accurate to talk about bisexuality among non-human animals. Very few species are known to exhibit exclusively homosexual behaviour, even when females are available. A few exceptions have been found including some domestic sheep.
Interestingly they show the same anatomical differences in an area of the brain called the hypothalmus that has been observed in homosexual men.
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Were These People “Demonized” or Simply Mentally Ill?
by minimus init seems that every congregation had a problem with people being affected by the demons.
looking back i have to wonder was it that more people were emotionally or mentally unbalanced?
or they simply off their medications or were they in need of meds?.
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cofty
In many cases neither.
They believed in demons and were prone to ascribe agency to all sorts of coincidental events and incidents.
'Shit happens' is less exciting than deemonz.
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Solicitors Appontment Tomorrow - Advice Appreciated
by pale.emperor infollowing up on this thread: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5012900121935872/am-overreacting-here?page=3#!#5179106934128640.
im seeing my solicitor tomorrow to see about getting an order in place making sure any contact my daughter has with my jw family goes through me and not my ex-wife.. explained the situation briefly to the lawyer, she was asking more and more about why should i be concerned if a jw had access to my child.. i mentioned the blood issue, the shunning, the inappropriate pictures of armageddon in books/mags etc.
do you think i should bring in watchtower literature to show them what i mean?
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cofty
Yes I would take along any printed material you can to show why you are rightly concerned.
Personally I told my in-laws that they could have the children for short visits but only if they were first prepared to sit down with me for a conversation about the ground-rules. That was over 20 years ago. Still waiting for them to get back to me.
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cofty
He was a salesman who turned the gospel into a commodity.
He manipulated the crowds and applied emotional blackmail to coerce frightened and gullible souls to come forward and repeat the magic spell that would save them from hell.
I have no idea if he believed his bullshit or not but either way he was a huckster.
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No Bible = No God?
by menrov insome doubt about the bible completely, some partially.
what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.
would you still believe in a creator?.
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cofty
The one that I personally can't get past is believing that hundreds of people would choose persecution, family rejection and many of them death for something they knew to be a lie.
Except they didn't.
You are creating a false dichotomy between actually seeing the risen christ or deliberately lying about it. Human psychology is more nuanced than that.
They believed Jesus was still with them in some sense. It is a common phenomena when somebody close has died and even more so when all of their hopes had been dashed by Jesus' death.
These men had walked out on their families to follow Jesus. Their emotional investment was as great as any of the millions who have died for religious delusions.