kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
What??? They invaded in the 1990s!!!!! How many can you give pre Bush snr? - Diog
Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. The response by the west was limited to liberating Kuwait.
There are so many fanciful assertions in this thread. Typical, myopic, self-loathing rhetoric.
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
Like all conspiracy theories you take a smattering of facts and use them to weave a fantasy.
No sane person doubts that the CIA have long been active in dabbling in foreign lands. That is beyond dispute.
That does not justify some of the more fanciful claims in your posts in this thread.
We in the West receive the bulk of (dis)information from news outlets who do business with the C.I.A. and funnel these talking points to a Public many of whom do not cross-check sources on-the-ground and compare one to the other.
I have read widely on the history of the ME - by authors who do not get their data from the CIA
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
Kurdistan is a region not a state. The oil belongs to Iraq.
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
But when did the terror against the west start? oh yes, when the US invaded Iraq. - Diog
Oh my goodness! Where on earth do you get your knowledge of modern history?
How many Islamist atrocities pre Iraq War II can you list? I will give a start - 9/11
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
So in your opinion Terry what is the real reason for Turkey invading the Kurdish held region - Fink
Because of the activities of a Kurdish separatist organisation called the PKK who have carried on an armed conflict - terrorist campaign- within Turkey.
Now with the withdrawal of American protection Erdogan will eradicate ALL Kurds from Turkey. He will not hesitate to distinguish between terrorists and innocent women and children.
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
The Syrian conflict did start as a popular uprising by oppressed Syrians weary of Assad's corrupt regime. It was part of the Arab Spring. The civil war resulted directly from Assad's brutal response.
Syria then became a magnet for multiple competing regional and international interests.
Your are in danger of becoming an apologist for one of (or it is two of) modern history's greatest tyrants.
kurd is the word - the word is kurd________who the heck are they?.
once upon a time, world war one ended and three people created a new place out of thin air called: iraq.
(gertrude bell, lawrence of arabia, winston churchill).this new country was divided up into 3 chunks:kurdsunnishia_____solemn promises made by colonel t.e.
Kurds have OIL
Kurds have no oil Terry - they do not have a square yard of earth to call their own.
They have been instrumental in the fight against Islamist terror groups and the dismantling of the Caliphate. Now on a whim they are abandoned to the Turkish tyrant. At best ethnic cleansing will ensue - at worst genocide.
Of course there is a large element of self-interest in every political decision but do you not consider the possibility that world leaders really do care about the victims of tyranny?
The real problem with the Middle East is not meddling by oil-hungry democracies; it is the tribalism and corruption of almost every Middle East ruler in recent history. Maybe King Hussein of Jordan was a rare exception.
so i'll be speaking on a panel as part of the "when rights and religions collide" event next saturday, october 19. if you'd like to attend you can learn more here:https://rightsandreligions.com/.
i'm also going to host a meetup on sunday if any of you are in the nyc area.
i'm still putting the finishing touches on the details but if you'd like to join in and meet myself, my wife, and a few people that listen to the shunned podcast or that are in my facebook group called by the same name shoot me a private message soon.
I look forward to hearing how it goes.
I also find the similarities with other high-control groups to be fascinating. I am drawn to books by apostates from all sorts of groups.
Good luck with the event and the meet-up.
the new site at www.apostat.es will provide a few free tools to help us reach out to the jehovah's witnesses we still care about.
podcasts can be hosted for free, as can blogs and articles.
you can create your own store to sell your apostate tee shirts, posters calendars etc.. it will show jw's that apostates are normal, healthy folks who simply changed their minds about their former beliefs.
Thanks for the update. Look forward to seeing it launched.
the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?
in my dreams i saw the carts.
they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.
PP - I aware of no indications that the WT is moving from cult to mainstream denomination. I do see many signs of the opposite.
The constant ratcheting up of rhetoric about future atacks by security services and armed police is a blatant example.
There is no doubt in my mind that they are heading further along the cult spectrum.
