Ah the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy. I was waiting for that.
Every cult dismissing their 'apostates' as never being genuine members.
Joan - You are no less a cult member than any JW.
Posts by cofty
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cofty
Dr Who - Nobody is suggesting that an omnipotent god should be able to do things that are logically impossible. You are inventing a straw man because theism is destroyed by its own internal contradictions.
The god who created a planet that is perfectly designed to maximise the suffering of conscious creatures is either useless or evil.
Occam's razor suggests he is simply a figment of human imagination.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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MMM - You are missing the point.
The god of xtian theism knows every single thing I will ever say, think or do in minute detail.
Therefore the book of my life from conception to death is already written in stone (the god of the WT chooses not to read the book - an irrelevant detail)
Therefore I have no freedom to choose otherwise.
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^^^ Priceless ^^^
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Has Anyone Had Chinese Food Lately?
by minimus insince this virus, i have noticed that nearly all of the take out joints in my area are closed.
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cofty
I miss Chinese food. The blame lies with the CCP not with our Chinese neighbours or the Chinese population.
On the other hand I will go out my way in future never to buy goods made in China.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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cofty
Joan - I was an evangelical, born-again, bible-believing, son of god, saved, adopted christian for a decade after I left the cult. I dived deeply into theology and christian apologetics. When our church lost its pastor I preached regularly. I preached Christ and him crucified. I know what it is I am criticising.
I probably understand your beliefs better than you do. I know exactly why your brand of christianity is beneath the contempt of every human being with an ounce of moral sense.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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cofty
Bad mouthing from a disgruntled former follower of men like you is a badge of honour - Joan75
I had intellectual honesty and moral courage to give up all my former beliefs, and endure isolation from family and friends in order to claim my right to think for myself.
You on the other hand are still a slave to dehumanising religious dogma of the very worst kind.
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cofty
'Natural evil' is irrefutable proof that the god of xtian theism does not exist.
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Does prophesy negate free will?
by Tim207 innot sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.
i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.
to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.
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cofty
MMM - If every single detail of your life was inevitable from before your conception then you have never made a free choice.
Are you having a cup of coffee right now? Which blend? What colour of mug did you choose? How many sips did you take to finish it? Did you finish it? Did you just touch your nose? Which side? Which hand? Did you glance out the window? How long did you look?
According to xtians like Joan EVERY detail including thousands of things we could say about the last five minutes of your day was cast in stone before your birth.
How exactly is freedom or genuine human relationships possible?