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  What’s up with the modern Nation of Israel?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  being raised a dub i never voted.

  i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.

  i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.

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  Israel is a haven of democracy in a region of Islamic fascism. Some of those neighbours have vowed to push Israel into the sea. If any country on earth deserves the support of western democracies it is the state of Israel. The other great thing about supporting Israel is that they do a fantastic job of helping themselves.

  On the other hand, the occupation of the West Bank is a disgrace. There are many times when Israel makes it very difficult for their friends to be supportive.

  For a perspective from both sides see The Palestine - Israel Conflict by Dan Cohn-Sherbok & Dawould El-ALami or for the view of an Israeli who is critical of his country see Cursed Victory - A History of Israel and the Occupied Territories by Ahron Bregman. A good history of the formation of modern Israel is A Line in the Sand by James Barr.
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  Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

  by Aleph in

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  2. experiences

  hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

  " they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

  - no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

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  You were Dfd for not complying with their strict sexual laws. The zoom thing was probably just one of many things that led them to the conclusion that you didn't care sufficiently about the matter.

  Why should you care? Did you do anything morally wrong? Why do you give a fuck what cult leaders think? Why are you even attending their zoom meetings? They did you a favour. Welcome to the real world.
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  Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry

  by Anders Andersen in

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  2. scandals

  today watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.

  quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.

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  They are absolutely clueless. The good news is that their lack of self-awareness is going to carry on costing them millions in endless lawsuits.
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  Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

  by Aleph in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

  " they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

  - no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

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  Aleph - Are you sure you were DFd for not having your camera on or were you DFd for something else and they used the camera as an example of attitude?
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  I'm not into conspiracy theories, but Google FEMA clergy response team. Would WT. throw the R&F under the bus to save it's own skin

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  correct me if i'm wrong but about the same time this was activated was when the wt.

  came out with the "we may receive instructions that may not seem practical from a human standpoint".

  and it has been emphasized greatly regarding covid measures that "we must obey the superior authorities".

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  I'm not into conspiracy theories but .... (insert outrageous conspiracy theory here)
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

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  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  PZ - The topic is interesting. Your ranting is not.
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

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  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  Mini - No.

  Joen - Russell was not an 'occultist'.
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

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  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  Pete I get vienne's frustration.
  The idea that Russell was influenced by Masonic rituals has been debunked so many times and so thoroughly by thoughtful posters it is astonishing that the myth won't die. I guess people prefer a mystery to facts they ought to have known but didn't.

  Even what vienne and her late mum have posted in this forum has shown how poor most exJWs knowledge is of the origins of the religion. Most seem happy that way.
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
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  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  Thank you Annie.
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  William Miller

  by lepavoux in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!

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  vienne - Is it fair to say that Miller was one of many Millenarians of that time and that he had an influence on Russell? Who would it be accurate to identify as the source of the Millenarian movement?

  I'm putting those books on my xmas list.