most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.
i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.
here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.
And your definition of morality is your own not God's.
If morality means anything it involves concern for the needs and well-being of others.
Slavery - the ownership of another human being to be used as chattel - is immoral. Your god approves of slavery.
Kidnap and rape is immoral. Your god approves of kidnap and rape.
Infanticide is immoral. Your god approves of infanticide.
Therefore your god is immoral and so must his son be too.
most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.
i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.
here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.
Anna M - I have read the bible in its entirety many times.
If you disagree that the god of the Old Testament - the god and father of Jesus Christ - was not a moral monster then I can only assume you have never read it.
God condones slavery. Slavery is a moral outrage. Therefore I am more moral than your god.
Read your bible before you slander me by calling me a liar.
most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.
i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.
here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.
The values of Jesus Christ are all good - Anna M
Yahweh of the Old Testament was the 'god and father' of Jesus. Jesus did not do a single thing of his own initiative but only as he heard from the father.
Yahweh prescribed genocide, kidnap, rape, slavery and the mass murder of infants.
How could Jesus - who never once condemned slavery - have values that were 'all good'? I am more moral and ethical than Jesus and his god and - I trust - so are you.
most of the individuals here from what i have read have gravitated to believing in evolution for various reasons and no longer have a belief in a creator.. the questions begs though, is there a higher conscious in the universe than mankind's.
i am sure everyone agrees that animals are conscious, but to what extent can they reason?.
here is the link to dr. rupert sheldrake's - is the sun conscious.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfhsobpja8a.
I don't believe in evolution.
I also don't believe in germ theory or gravity or that the earth is not flat.
These things are all just facts that do not require our belief or approval. They remain true even if we decide to reject them.
Also belief in a creator is not at odds with accepting the fact of evolution. The vast majority of xtians accept the fact of biological evolution.
Is the sun conscious? - 'What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence' - The Late, Great Christopher Hitchens.
i was wondering about this.
if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.
so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.
surely that’s a slippery slope argument?
Sometimes fears of slippery slopes are justified.
i have always felt trump will win again.
i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.
I am hoping for an entertaining Trump v Biden live debate.
Total nightmare for Biden's camp. Of course if I was American I would try to be more mature about the choice but I'm not so I get to eat popcorn and point and laugh.
Your choice is a bit like judging an ugly baby contest.
i was wondering about this.
if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.
so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.
Earnest thanks for the clarification.
It still seems like a mistake to pass a law that makes it even remotely possible for an adult to have sex with a 14 year old and not be registered as a sexual predator.
The practice of gay men grooming teenage boys is a real issue that needs addressed by more rigorous application of law not less.
i was wondering about this.
if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.
so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.
Diog - Doesn't this law permit a 24 year old to have anal sex with a 14 year old? In the rest of the world we call that pedophile rape.
being raised a dub i never voted.
i’m not a republican or a democrat, not a liberal or a conservative.. i’m pretty middle of the road.
i want everyone to have a fair shake if possible in this life, but i definitely don’t believe in forced equality, that’s just not possible.
Israel is a haven of democracy in a region of Islamic fascism. Some of those neighbours have vowed to push Israel into the sea. If any country on earth deserves the support of western democracies it is the state of Israel. The other great thing about supporting Israel is that they do a fantastic job of helping themselves.
On the other hand, the occupation of the West Bank is a disgrace. There are many times when Israel makes it very difficult for their friends to be supportive.
For a perspective from both sides see The Palestine - Israel Conflict by Dan Cohn-Sherbok & Dawould El-ALami or for the view of an Israeli who is critical of his country see Cursed Victory - A History of Israel and the Occupied Territories by Ahron Bregman. A good history of the formation of modern Israel is A Line in the Sand by James Barr.
hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!
" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.
- no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!
You were Dfd for not complying with their strict sexual laws. The zoom thing was probably just one of many things that led them to the conclusion that you didn't care sufficiently about the matter.
Why should you care? Did you do anything morally wrong? Why do you give a fuck what cult leaders think? Why are you even attending their zoom meetings? They did you a favour. Welcome to the real world.
