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  Bro Knorrs Notes RE Disfellowshipping & Two Witness Rule

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. scandals

  hi guys.

  a fellow ex jw shared this with me.

  haven't time to read them yet (i'm using my phone to go on internet).

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  cofty

  Very interesting. Notice that the reason for the disfellowshipping was to be stated to the "company".

  Would rightly result in legal action for defamation now.
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  Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”

  by wifibandit in

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  2. child-abuse

  a known poster on this site (anon) says:.

  i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.

  here it is verbatim, and my reply.

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  In the event a matter involving the abuse of a child is brought to the attention of congregation elders, two elders will contact the Legal Department at the branch office as soon as possible for legal advice to ensure that they comply with any relevant laws.

  So no change at all then. Idiots!

  The law in the UK does not require reporting therefore NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
  

  I have been involved in child welfare through sport for many years. Every adequate Child Welfare policy emphasises one key point...

  If you become aware of an allegation of child abuse you WILL contact the police or social services. If a child doesn't want you to contact the police you will still contact the police. You should also inform the child welfare officer of your local club or national sport governing body. However this is secondary to your requirement to inform the police or social services.

  This will not do.
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  The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  recently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.

  it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.

  he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.

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  I am still puzzled about where the money is and why.

  I haven't heard a credible explanation yet. They are hoovering up huge sums of cash but you can only sell the family silver once.

  What on earth is going on? I will be surprised if anybody is getting personally wealthy. It's bizarre.
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  Philomena Cunk, Christmas 2016 "Moments of Wonder".

  by Simon in

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  2. humour

  this is a funny, kind of reminds me of ali g with some of the questions.. i love religious / biblical irreverence .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hna6b66bilk.

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  Very funny. Saw this on TV earlier this week.
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  Who is Gog/Magog?

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. bible

  ezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.

  according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.

  this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.

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  the topic of Gog has garnered much interest in Jewish, Christian and Muslim discussions. - Coldsteel

  Meanwhile in other news, Bilbo Baggins will be swept into a quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug.
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  Question.

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?

  i remember something & have done some serching but need help.

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  Cofty I thought it was the opposite. I thought the Quouran stated it was *not* ok to beat your wife, even with a feather. Maybe Jwdaughter May be able to help with this. - Dio

  Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand. - An Nisa 4:34

  I have invited JW Daughter to disavow this verse numerous times. So far she has declined to do so. Muhammed was a pedophile and a wife beater.
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

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  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  they could even accept human evolution too, as the Catholic Church does. I am not saying they will necessarily, but it's possible - SBF

  No they couldn't. The ransom is the cornerstone doctrine of the cult and it depends on the lie that every human descended from a literal Adam.
  
  
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  I just lack knowledge of macro evolution at the minute as I've never read up on that as I've only read the society's publications on it - Midnight

  If you look at the end of the OP of the following thread there are links to the other 37 threads in the series. I need to get back to this.

  Evolution is a Fact...
  
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  Question.

  by phats in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi, is there a scripture saying it's okay to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than a mans thumb or is this a myth?

  i remember something & have done some serching but need help.

  phats.

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  The Quran gives men permission to beat their wives.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  my objection is to his ignorant and arrogant assersion that anyone can prove or disprove the existence of God - Loopy Loo

  It is neither ignorant nor arrogant to claim that the god of christian theism - the god and father of Jesus does not exist.

  That much can be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. I submit that this thread is as compelling a proof as any reasonable person should require, but there is a lot more to be said about the evidence against the existence of Jesus' god. If you want to argue about the existence of some other vague concept of a higher power then I have no interest in discussing something so ambiguous. Once you make your mind up about which god you wish to defend let me know. I suspect it is the god of Jesus but you just lack the courage of your convictions to stick to the topic, and would prefer to boast about your IQ.
  

  I don't think I have ever engaged in, or observed, a conversation with a christian about the existence of god where the theist didn't eventually resort to a position of deism.

  I was alluding to Pascal's wager

  Pascal's wager is pathetic. It relies on the false premise that the non-existence of god cannot be proven and the lie that organising your life around a delusion is not too high a price to pay.

  Why would a just god reward somebody for pretending to believe something? Is he impressed by hypocrisy? Why would he punish genuine incredulity?

  Pascal's Wager is a call to moral and intellectual cowardice.
  
  

  I apologize Crofty for my ad hominum cracks - i suspect you have a BPD and can't help yourself ... you fuckwit Cofty ... my IQ is 140 yours I suspect is no greater than your shoe size ... I try not to argue with morons ...

  So you should. So far you have avoided addressing the topic.