I really don't buy the line that feeding the 'military industry' is a motive for war. I think the motives are far more idiosyncratic and ad hoc.
Posts by cofty
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107Do You Trump Should Have Exterminated That Poor Iranian Fellow?
by minimus ingood move or bad?
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Which songs give you goosebumps?
by LoveUniHateExams ini don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?
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y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.
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cofty
Miles Davis - 'Flamenco Sketches' (alternative version) on Kind of Blue.
Play it in the dark. The horn 10 seconds in will blow your mind. I listened to it late one night in a hospital bed with ear buds. Changed my world.
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Do You Trump Should Have Exterminated That Poor Iranian Fellow?
by minimus ingood move or bad?
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cofty
It was morally justified - Soleimani was a monster and an implacable enemy - but time will tell if it was wise.
The backlash will be fierce and I don't trust President Trump to handle the escalation calmly.
Contrary to the propaganda many Iranians will be euphoric that he is dead.
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Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?
by minimus inshe certainly is passionate about climate change.
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cofty
Thanks for taking the time to type that out Earnest.
It seems to show that Greta's obsession was not initiated by her parents. I feel a bit sorry for them. She is not a well child. She may be enjoying the international acclaim right now but I would fear for her future more than I fear for the planet.
Environmentalism is a secular religion. Greta is being beatified as the patron saint of the green movement. What is needed is a rational conversation about what will actually make a difference and what is realistic not the endless virtue signalling, hysteria and tokenism.
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Is it possible to nullify a baptism?
by idk123 inhope you are all well,.
i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.
see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.
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cofty
Maybe if you talk to them and explain that you never believed a word of it, you were too young, you only got baptised to please them and there is zero chance of you ever coming back they might take a pragmatic approach.
Officially they would be breaking rules but it's not unknown.
Edited to add - Don't let the emotional blackmail influence you into going back to please them. That's only postponing the inevitable.
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Is it possible to nullify a baptism?
by idk123 inhope you are all well,.
i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.
see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.
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cofty
Hi welcome to the forum.
When I was an elder 25 years ago there was no provision for annulment of baptism. I strongly doubt anything has changed since. Sadly the organisation pressure youths to get baptised specifically so that they can exert some control over them and make leaving a costly decision.
Are your parents taking a hard line? Sometimes parents are willing to maintain some contact with DFd children as long as they don't see you as a threat to their faith. Other's are unwilling to compromise. It's shameful cultish behaviour but at least you got out when you still have time to enjoy a good education and career.
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Happy New Year everybody from North East England
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'Jehovah's Witnesses' Label Added to Trolley
by cofty inyesterday i noticed on four trolleys i passed (and had a long useful conversation at one but more on that later) they had added a label identifying themselves as jehovah's witnesses.
it was just a simple printed piece of white card stuck on next the logo.. is this a new requirement?
was it a directive from hq or i wonder if the local council require it..
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cofty
Interesting. So not a local issue then.
Hopefully a PIMO will be able to tell us why. I would be willing to bet it has been forced on them for legal reasons.
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Do you have a favorite picture?
by Iamallcool init can be beautiful landscape, etc... share it with us!
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cofty
This is Hagar by the Scottish painter Andrew Geddes.
I first saw it hanging in the National Gallery in Edinburgh many years ago when I was still a JW. I had heard the story many times but never stopped to see it from Hagar's perspective. This work stopped me in my tracks. Look in her eyes and tell me you can still view Abraham as a model of faith.
I bought a postcard of it from the gallery shop and stuck it on my desk from then until long after I left the cult. It would be a gross exaggeration to say I was awakened by a painting but it definitely affected me.
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'Jehovah's Witnesses' Label Added to Trolley
by cofty inyesterday i noticed on four trolleys i passed (and had a long useful conversation at one but more on that later) they had added a label identifying themselves as jehovah's witnesses.
it was just a simple printed piece of white card stuck on next the logo.. is this a new requirement?
was it a directive from hq or i wonder if the local council require it..
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cofty
I don't think it would be a decision of a local body of elders as the trolleys came from various congregations.
The local council probably would need to grant permission in city centre bit I'm not certain.