according to white house task-force expert: .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52241221.
"dr anthony fauci, a key member of the white house's coronavirus task force, told nbc news' today show on thursday the final number of americans who will die from covid-19 in the outbreak "looks more like 60,000".
Why are you cherry-picking?
Best case scenario with massive shut down of the economy and draconian limitations on personal freedom, deaths from covid-19 might, if we are really lucky, be similar to a bad flu epidemic with zero interventions.
In other words there is no comparison between the impact of the flu and the impact of covid-19.
I can't imagine what the toll is going to be when it sweeps through Africa.
i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.
generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.
certainly no political point scoring.
Boris Johnson is out of the ICU 🤞
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Boris Johnson is out of ICU and back on a normal ward.
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
This is awful news. What on Earth do we do now? - SBF
You sound like great aunt Maud clutching her pearls and swooning onto the chez lounge.
Man up FFS!
i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.
generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.
certainly no political point scoring.
South Korea has had testing and tracking in place for years. Every other country is way behind. Testing will be part of helping gather data that will allow decisions to be made to relax the rules but it will take time to ramp up testing.
Nobody is 'advocating' herd immunity it is just a fact that without a vaccine we will end up in a position where herd immunity is a reality. You are behaving as if the British government proposed doing nothing except letting herd immunity deal with it.
Vaccines are over a year away and treatment options at the moment are not promising. The UK policy of social distancing to flatten the curve, massive boosting of NHS resources, supporting business and workers and shielding the vulnerable is as good as it gets. Give a bit of credit where it is due.
if anyone voices an opinion with which i disagree or even detest, i can either debate it or walk away.. the last thing i want is for someone to be silenced by threats.
however, it appears that some opinions on social media etc.
which contradict the official narrative are being muted.
IMO the cult should be legally free to teach that God hates blood.
However young people should be forced to have transfusions if there is a medical emergency, and the cult should not enjoy financial benefits.
We should all be free speech fundamentalists. The best defence against bad ideas and lies is exposure to better ideas and truth.
am i missing something here ?
how is it that where this covid 19 started , in wuhan china, china has only ,reportedly 83,000 for the whole country ?
whereas in the united states of america the figure is just under 400,000 ?.
The Pope is a Catholic.
Bears shit in the woods.
The CCP lies.
if anyone voices an opinion with which i disagree or even detest, i can either debate it or walk away.. the last thing i want is for someone to be silenced by threats.
however, it appears that some opinions on social media etc.
which contradict the official narrative are being muted.
Totally agree with comments by TD and AA above however this situation is slightly different.
It isn't the radio station that is refusing to allow idiotic and dangerous conspiracy theories to be be aired, it's the regulator OFCOM who are threatening to sanction the station for permitting the woman to spread lies on their station.
It does raise an interesting example of the limits of free speech.
I think you could argue there is a direct and immediate danger of physical harm to others which is perhaps the only legitimate reason to disallow speech.
i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.
generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.
certainly no political point scoring.
you are wishing others to die so you don’t have to
SBF - You epitomise everything that is wrong with online conversations.
You know you are misrepresenting my words but not for the first time be a smart arse is more important to you than dialogue. Maybe you need to get out more.
i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.
generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.
certainly no political point scoring.
A vaccine is probably 12-18 months away so like it or not herd immunity is part of the solution.
Keep the most vulnerable isolated, partial lockdown to keep hospital cases manageable and once the spread is under control gradually relax the rules.
The UK are just being more honest about it and treating us like adults.
IMO Boris and co - including Nicola Sturgeon - have been excellent.
