China where it started ,83,000 / USA now <400,000 How come ?

by smiddy3 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Am I missing something here ? how is it that where this Covid 19 started , in Wuhan China, China has only ,reportedly 83,000 for the whole country ? whereas in the United States of America the figure is just under 400,000 ?

    How is china where it all started ,with so few, compared to the USA ,thousands of miles away where the USA have nearly 5 times that of China ?

    How can we really know the number of victims of this virus in China? Are they down-playing the numbers ?

    somehow the numbers just don`t add up .Who is looking into this ? The United Nations ? The World Health Organization ?

    Both the political and health agencies.?

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    Q:Are they down playing the numbers.

    A:I think so

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    It is extremely unlikely that China was able to monitor and identify all those with the disease.

  • cofty
    cofty

    The Pope is a Catholic.

    Bears shit in the woods.

    The CCP lies.

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    China's covid numbers started dropping as soon as they expelled western journalist from their country.

  • RubaDub
    RubaDub

    I think it is a combination of under reporting and culture.

    1. It's hard to believe anything they say, especially when there is not a third party looking at the numbers.

    2. If you have ever visited Asia, you see people walking around wearing masks even in "normal" times. In the cities, country, etc. You don't feel good or have a cold, you put a mask on. If you see others around you with colds, you put a mask on. Once in Hong Kong, I asked the woman at the hotel why so many were wearing masks in the streets. She said a lot of people had colds and people don't want to catch if from others. She reached under the counter and showed me hers.

    Here, the mask seems to be the last resort. In Asia, it's not uncommon to see many people wearing them.

    Rub a Dub

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    I don't trust communist governments that slaughter those who try exposing the truth. This is as true for the jokehovian witlesses that add to their reports as it is for governments that do not test for the disease or even tell the truth about how many new cases there really are. It would cost them money and prestige if people knew the truth about China, as much as it would if people knew the truth about how many publishers there really are within the jokehovians.

    As far as boycotting China, I am one that would be more likely to do that in response to them lying than in response to having 200 million cases of coronavirus. If they had 200 million cases and were forthcoming about it, that would be "bad luck". If they have 200 million cases and lie about it, that is one more reason to boycott Chinese products when possible. Already, I stay away from poorly made products, preferring top quality at full price instead of cheap rubbish. And I last shopped Walmart for sun-worship decorations in 2009, getting nothing because of the abominable lousy selection and quality. I haven't set foot in that place since then.

    At least here, there is a halfway decent chance that they are somewhere near the truth. Yes, they still miss cases because of bad tests or someone with coronavirus thinks they just have a cold and doesn't bother getting tested. But, at least they are half trying. That is more than can be said about China, who slaughtered those who tried to tell the truth.

    Seems the truth is offensive to those depending on lies.

  • silentbuddha
    silentbuddha

    Sorry but the Chinese culture breeds disease. I'm jot talking about just the filthy markets, but day to day loving. Prior to my career change I spent 8 months in Asia.

    The Japanese and South Koreans levels of cleanliness are leaps and bounds ahead.

    Washing hands , covering one's mouth, etc... are foreign concepts. I have never been anywhere that I felt this way. People walked out of bathrooms as if the sinks were not there.

    At multiple places people eat they will literally wipe a bowl out with a rag they have on their shoulders or counters and fill it with your food.

    Nasty

  • shepherdless
    shepherdless

    As someone who has been following this closely right from the start (my work colleagues could testify to my scaremongering since mid January) I will throw in my 2c worth.

    China lied in the early stages about what was going on. Lies were exposed and obvious to anyone taking notice, by mid-January.

    W.H.O. were too politically correct in some of their statements for the second half of January, but the detail of the message was pretty clear. They warned what was coming about EVERYTHING, apart from the toilet paper fetish.

    USA, Australia and others shutting their borders to travellers to China on 1 Feb was an intelligent move, and one that the politically correct progressives would have struggled with, but possibly a few days overdue, given the information available at the time.

    For what it is worth, I give credit to Trump for giving the okay to that decision, at the time.

    Perhaps this is not quite politically correct to say, but figures for both USA and China (and for a number of other countries) are dubious, at the moment.

    This will probably draw a lot of criticism to say this, but since that one good decision by Trump, the USA response appears to have been utterly shambolic. How can you fight a disease if you don’t test who has it? Why give mixed and contradictory messages? That only stops people taking it seriously. Why say it will fade by summer (without any evidence that that may be the case)? Why tell people they might be back in churches by Easter when any statistician looking at the data could see that that was delusional. Why make it all so political, so only 41% of Republicans (compared to 71% of Democrats) think they are at risk? Just a crazy mess, in my view. And it gets worse, NY Gov Cuomo (a Democrat) thinks they are near or on an “apex”. The data doesn’t seem to suggest that at all. On current trends, I would predict USA will be approaching 1 million cases within about a fortnight, but I would be happy ( even ecstatic) to be wrong.

  • sir82
    sir82
    USA, Australia and others shutting their borders to travelers to China on 1 Feb

    Just a clarification:

    The US travel restriction was for "aliens" who had been in China for 14 days prior. US residents, and family members of residents, and various other exceptions, were not restricted from entering from China.

    40,000 people entered the USA on flights from China after the 1 Feb declaration.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html

    "We closed our borders to people coming from China" is yet another CYA myth that simply isn't true.

    40,000.


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