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  Epicurean Paradox

  by Tahoe in

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  'Natural evil' is irrefutable proof that the god of xtian theism does not exist.
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

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  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  MMM - If every single detail of your life was inevitable from before your conception then you have never made a free choice.

  Are you having a cup of coffee right now? Which blend? What colour of mug did you choose? How many sips did you take to finish it? Did you finish it? Did you just touch your nose? Which side? Which hand? Did you glance out the window? How long did you look?

  According to xtians like Joan EVERY detail including thousands of things we could say about the last five minutes of your day was cast in stone before your birth.

  How exactly is freedom or genuine human relationships possible?
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

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  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  You and your ilk are morally bankrupt
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

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  2. bible

  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  Joen - Then god is morally responsible for 300,000 years of human suffering.
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  It's a great question.

  If God has - or as the WT has it, COULD HAVE if he chose - perfect knowledge of the future, then free will is a delusion.

  The book of your life, in every minute detail is already written, and you have no choice but to act it out.

  Every effort by theologians to combine foreknowledge and free will amounts to nothing but sophistry and hand waving.

  This should tell you something about theology.
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  Theory of Wuhan virus being created in a viral lab now being considered

  by JimmyYoung in

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  i thought it was a strange coincidence that there was a weapons lab right near the supposed wet market where it started.

  china needs to pay for this one way or the other.

  https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-cables-coronavirus-origin-chinese-lab-bats.

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  Geneticists all over the world have studied the genome of this virus. Every expert I have heard or read has said unequivocally that it is a natural virus that shows no signs of modification.
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  Interesting, Cofty. Are you saying that such countries are merely postponing the inevitable? Any data on that? - FF

  Countries that locked down very early and very hard such as Denmark are likely to have a relatively small population who have been exposed. When they open up - as they are about to do now - they might find they have no option but to go through the same pain that France, Italy Spain and to a lesser degree, the UK are in the midst of.

  How, exactly, will testing be the answer? FUJ

  Random antibody testing of the general population will show what percentage of the country has been through covid19 already and are unlikely - or less likely - to be reinfected. That allows decisions to be made about opening up again. Once 60% or so are immune the virus will spread much more slowly with an R0 well below 1. Combined with testing of people with new symptoms, and tracing of contacts, new flare-ups can be suppressed. Phone apps will probably be part of the equation.

  This is how South Korea have dealt with the pandemic because they had the resources from day 1 having been hammered previously by MERS. No doubt every country will be doing similar preparation for future Chinese pandemics (it will happen again)

  If Covid-19 is not a live virus, then how can you kill it? - FF

  It is a parcel of RNA wrapped up in a lipid membrane. It is not technically alive as it can't reproduce outside of a host cell. Once the membrane breaks down the DNA is destroyed. Soap and water - or just time - destroys the membrane. It cannot pass through your skin but will pass easily through eyes, nose and mouth. So wash your hands, forget about gloves and wash your hands.

  An alternative - favoured by SBF is to completely lock down until a vaccine or an effective treatment is available. A vaccine is 12-18 months away. A treatment may be a few months to a year away if an existing drug can be repurposed. So far potential candidates have failed.

  No economy can afford more than a few months. Economic collapse costs many lives.
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  We should have followed South Korea, Singapore, and Hong Kong in testing, tracing, and routing out the virus

  It was never an option as I have explained multiple times.

  Testing is how we will get out of it long before a vaccine is ready but herd immunity is just a fact.

  Countries that shut down very early and very thoroughly probably still have all their pain ahead of them.
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  Due to Covid-19 a coming Global Government, the Beast of Revelation 13

  by Kosonen in

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  just recently there have been calls from heavyweight statesmen to set up a new global authority to tackle the covid-19 pandemic and the economic crisis it creates.they are henry kissinger, former uk primeministers gordon brown and tony blair.former prime minister of uk, tony blair is fervently advising governments around the world how to get the corona virus under control and how to restart the economy after the lockdown.

  he is running tony blair institute for global changeon its webpage we can learn about his work with this:https://institute.global/tony-blair/mes ... t-covid-19"create one crisis-management centre.

  governments should have already repositioned themselves towards crisis management.

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  Interesting right up to the second last paragraph when you turned from rational commentator into superstitious nutter.
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  Differences between UK and US Corona Virus TV Updates

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  i'm in the uk, and most days over the last 2 weeks i've watched the 5pm uk government update on the corona virus situation which includes questions from the media.

  generally speaking i've found the whole update, including the questions and answers, to be respectful, informative and non combative, with, to the best of my recollection, very little mention of politics and blame.

  certainly no political point scoring.

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  Phizzy anybody could refute or provide important context to everyone of those points, but if you think that is not totally dishonest meme there is no point.

  The UK response has been as good as it gets under the circumstances.