Her credibility went through the door on this thread from the time she said that the GB never made any prophecies.
Mabe some of you are in the arguing mood but today i'm not.
jerome
once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.
this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.
he finally got a bright idea.
Her credibility went through the door on this thread from the time she said that the GB never made any prophecies.
Mabe some of you are in the arguing mood but today i'm not.
jerome
once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.
this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.
he finally got a bright idea.
Why are you people still bothering with hilda?
The girl obviously dosent know what shes talking about and she seems to be very unwilling to admit that she may be in error.
jeorme
..tonight to see my wife.
the kids and i stayed downstairs so she could have some quiet.
now i know what that "disbelieving husband" felt like when we would pop in to study with some sister or sister-to-be.
Susanhere
I think that it would be best if were not to gointo this any longer as nothing good would come of it.
I dont dislike the mormons I simply said that they are very similar to the JWs in many ways.
If I had to bring up matters shuch as the "Salamander letter" and the murders that were prepertrated to cover them up I dont think that you would be well enough equipped to respond.
Just forget it all.
Besides I think that i'd rather be the own lord of a planet rather than enjoy a paradise earth any day.
jerome
once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.
this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.
he finally got a bright idea.
Cassi
In another thread I just told you that i've been following hildas post and she displays the usual pattern of nonresponsive replys or utter ignorance about what shes actually talking about.
Now further up in this thread shes saying that the GB never prophesized.
Appaently she dosent know about the issues and isnt willing to keep her mouth shut untill she gets her facts straight.
There aint no need to keep running her down looking for an educated responce because all she seems to be doing is defending WT image and bashing apostates.
jerome
this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .
do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.
yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.
Hecter is still here?
The guy is obviously sharpening his debating skills on this board.
He runs a propaganda site.
What more do you have to tell to him, saying that you cant expect much of an anwser about any important issues any way?
Youve seen if from You Know, from Yadirf from Fred Hall mostly JW apologist just waste your time.
And he and his holier than thou, above any law theocratic war stragety attitude will see to it that he keps you running in circles.
Shurley you better things to do.
jerome
once upon a time there was an evil antagonist of god named ha satan.
this evildoer thought of many ways to make worldlings oppose god's covenant people.
he finally got a bright idea.
All of these issues were brought up before.
And all of them recieved their apporiate anwsers.
So why do you have to repeat all of these anwsers again?
And who gave this thread a #5 rating when it deserves a 1.
jerome
i brought this up a while back (last year some time...can't find the damn post!!
)...has the watchtower hinted at this yet?.
ps i think the reasoning of this is that its 70 years since the closing of the heavenly calling (1934/35).
Violet
Not to get into any argument or anything, I really would like to know how you rationalize what you were told.
The generation of the last days is which ever generation that happens to be around when the world ends.
What sort of prophesy is this?
That seems kinda obvious dosent it now.
As far as I know it would be reasonable to say that if the last days started in 1914, or any other date for that matter then the generation that sees the culmination of the last days would also have been born around that time and lasted for the entire period of the last days.
But what they are saying is that it dosent matter when the last days started that the generation of the lastdays will be the one that sees the end. Which means that the last days could contain any number generations.
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Last days is signaled by ----> Earthquakes, floods, famine, desiases, immorality at an unprecendted level.
Generation of the last days ---> Is signified by start of the last days.
A Biblical generation ---> 80 years max. [If God wanted to say age instead of generation he could have but he dident.]
But the last days may last longer than than a generation therefore the last days may contain more than one biblical generation.
Where is the prediction?
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This is all so confusing I cant put it all into words.
hope you dont mind me picking your brain too much.
in my post below, i related how i talked with the national defense information system, dept.
of the army regarding the hacker who attacked my pc 12 times in two hours.
well, it turned out the routing went through the ndif ... and after speaking with an army officer in washington, dc, they requested all information be immediately sent to them.. i got a call back, and evidently it was a little more serious and of interest to the authorities ... so, the matter has been referred by them to the department of defense (dod) ... i was contacted today and told that they will be back with me shortly, and to expect to provide additional information.. utterly fascinating.
Why would anyone wanna hack you?
Is this WT related?
jerome
the latest watchtower (july 1st) it says this: (bold mine).
(page 13 para 17) now is the time for jehovah to express mercy to his anointed servants and their other sheep companions.
the evidence that this is so is the extraordinary increase with which he has blessed them... .
I have to correct you there.
You cannot understand witness logic, you can only prove it to be incorrect.
jerome
am i the only one who sees it as a bit odd that a large number of jw apologists has suddenly come out of the woodwork on this board to defend the actions of the watchtower society toward bill bowen, barbara anderson and the pandelos?
for the longest time, virtually the only ones on this board who advocated an essentially orthodox jw viewpoint were you know and nytelecom/mavman (though each of them could easily be classed with us "apostates" if the watchtower knew of their disagreements with the party line).. but suddenly, we have a bunch of totally loyal, utterly doctrinaire jw apologists posting almost exclusively on threads related to the pedophile issue.
most of them are taking next to impossible positions from any reasonable standpoint.
Not all of the comments made by some the newbies are bad.
Psychdigg made a valid point about the difficulty in attaning an officially verifiable number of incodents of pediophila.
Its these sorta comments that should be responded too.
Not useless character attacks and ranting.
But none the less if you were an active JWs unaware of the whole story wouldent you want to launch an attack on Bill? So try not to too hard on them and just ignore the nonsense but respond to the reasonable arguments that they may present.
Hildabigen can for the large part be ignored. All she talks about is how the world is going to end and that she had a dream about somthing to that effect.
jerome
The Bible is a two edged sword wield it for evil and there may be hell to pay.