Hi!
Thanks for posting those pictures!
Do you know if they will be covering the WATCHTOWER sign that is on the top of the building to JW.ORG? If they did that, that would be very interesting!
ExpandedMind
see here the transformation from watchtower corporation to jw.org !.
greetings, gorby.
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Hi!
Thanks for posting those pictures!
Do you know if they will be covering the WATCHTOWER sign that is on the top of the building to JW.ORG? If they did that, that would be very interesting!
ExpandedMind
the article who really is the faithful and discreet slave in the july 15, 2013, watchtower contains a curious comment.
in paragraph 10 it is stated: "in recent decades, that slave has been closely identified with the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.".
can anyone tell me who in recent decades has closely identified that slave with the gb?
I believe that the Watchtower Society's publications have given JWs a "mixed" message about this teaching over the past few decades. Officially, you would find that the teaching (prior to the new light in 2013) was that the Faithful & Discreet Slave (FDS) = any of Christ's brothers while still in the flesh over the past twenty centuries. And what is the FDS supposed to be doing? Giving out food in due season. The whole slave performs this, not just select members (at least according to Jesus parable).
We have all likely heard stories that some "Anointed" brother or sister would send in to Bethel what they believe is a clearer understanding of certain Scriptures, etc. But are these suggestions given consideration? That's where the mixed message comes in. Because the Society has acknowledged in its publications that not all who were part of the Slave, dispensed spiritual food. Dispensing spiritual food was up to the Watchtower Society representatives at Bethel, which effectively = President and other officials and then a bit later these members became more formally known as the Governing Body.
So I would say Rufus, you are correct when you write: "Can anyone tell me WHO in recent decades has closely identified that slave with the GB? I know it wasn't the GB who did so!" Officially they did not state that the FDS = the Governing Body, but woven into their messages through the publications was a mixed message --- and this is what groups of and individual JWs picked up on --- is the idea that the FDS was really only associated with the higher ups... the Governing Body.
As for me, when I was a JW (1970 - 1984), I would have stated the official doctrine at the time. FDS = all the remaining members of Christ's Body on earth. But if I was asked if ALL the FDS dispensed spiritual food, I would likely have responded, no... that action is performed by the Watchtower Society / Governing Body alone. Again, I would be acknowledging that effectively, only the Governing Body dispensed food. So it would not be too much of a leap for JWs to just accept that the Governing Body alone is the FDS.
ExpandedMind
this is the first time i have seen the documentary "truth be told" up on the google news for jehovah's witnesses comment use face book log in comment before jw trolls trash it http://brookline.patch.com/articles/five-things-truth-be-told five things: truth be toldpatch.com-truth be told - documentary screening: a new feature-length documentary - lifts the veil on the seemingly benign jehovah's witnesses religion ... truth be told - documentary screening: a new feature-length documentary - lifts the veil on the seemingly benign jehovahs witnesses religion to expose a profit-driven, isolationist culture characterized by fear, totalitarian corporate leadership, intellectual & spiritual intimidation, suspension of critical thinking, failed prophecies, doctrinal inconsistency and improper handling of physical and sexual abuse allegations within the church.show begins at 7pm.
there will be a q&a session with director gregorio smith after the screening.
confirmed guests include noted author, cult expert and mental health counselor steven hassan..
Here's a link to the website that is promoting this new movie:
Contact them for more information... from what I learned from communicating with them, the DVD will be released this fall/winter.
ExpandedMind
looking for some apostate friends to hang with!!
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Hi!
I am also from the Chicago suburbs and will be at Champs on June 29th (Hi, OTWO!). We'd love to meet you... not sure how many will be there, but it is a great group to hang with!
Go to FB for more info: www.facebook.com/TransitioningJehovahsWitnesses
ExpandedMind
"The mind, once expanded to the dimensions of larger ideas, never returns to its original size." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
please feel free to pm me.
looking for more ex-jw's to connect with from milwaukee.
if you are from the wisconsin area also that is a plus.. thanks!.
Hi!
Sorry, the "name" is not familiar to me...
ExpandedMind
please feel free to pm me.
looking for more ex-jw's to connect with from milwaukee.
if you are from the wisconsin area also that is a plus.. thanks!.
Hi!
I'm not from Milwaukee (although I actually lived in a small town north of Milwaukee from 2006 - 2008 before I moved back to Illinois), but wanted you to know that there is a group of former Witnesses that meet fairly regularly in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. This group has had visitors from Wisconsin and Michigan, as I recall.
You are more than welcome to join in on the next "meet up". Here is the website: Transistioning Jehovah's Witnesses:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/transitioning.jehovahwitnesses?fref=ts
Feel free to PM if you have any questions.
Regards,
ExpandedMind
PS: Oh, and I believe there are former Witnesses in the Milwaukee area that run the 1-800-WHY-1914 phone number. It has been a really long time since I have been in contact with members of that group myself, so my memory may be cloudy! I think if you go to Randy Watters FREEMINDS website, he may have some of these persons listed.
i am trying to track down a young woman from stockton, ca that i have lost touch with.
i have heard she is dfed and family is shunning her, and i want to contact her, esp.
in light if recent events.
Good luck in your search!
ExpandedMind
i am trying to track down a young woman from stockton, ca that i have lost touch with.
i have heard she is dfed and family is shunning her, and i want to contact her, esp.
in light if recent events.
Hi perfect1!
I probably do not know your friend, but I have family (JWs) who live in Stockton, CA and have been trying to find out if anyone on this board goes to a Kingdom Hall in Stockton, and perhaps knows them? I am guessing there might be more than one Hall. I wish it was one of my family members you were talking about! But I doubt it.
If you want to talk, please PM me.
Thanks!
ExpandedMind
what has been your experience with this?
observations?.
does it ever work?.
Good advise from Benjamin Franklin:
"God helps those who help themselves" (Poor Richards Almanac 1757)
ExpandedMind
what has been your experience with this?
observations?.
does it ever work?.