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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter
by lambsbottom inwife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?
true?
references?.
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Blondie many witnesses do not realize that when it says" and then the end will come", it is referring to the end of the poreaching work. All nations know about Christ if not every person. Armageddon is not judgement on people so any not caught in the aftermat of war will survive and those that died during and as a result of fighting him will get a resurrection as they die an Adamic death. Jehovah not Jesus has power over that death after in the Millennium every PERSON WILL HEAR AND KNOW. Solution is simple.
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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter
by lambsbottom inwife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?
true?
references?.
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Armageddon is nothing but the takedown of society by Christ not judgement day. Any dying during that time dies an Adamic death and is ransomed by Christ. Neighbors, prisoners, JW, Non JW, the whole world living during this time will survive and have toi acknowledge the new government and submit after having knowledge. Then dead will rise also.
The great crowd and the ones that are chosen for the bride are all heavenly class. The great crowd is the temple workers. All persons that didn't get cught in or fought with Jesus will survive and those that fought will come back and bow before him as EVERY KNEE both on top and under will address Jesus.
Proof text for this is at the www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com site to the left under armageddon.
To admin, I know this is not a religious site but everybody comes here. I even get all my news here. So Thank you for letting me comment.
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Another Christian Post Article: JW's Child Sex Abuse Cases Bring Religion's Practices Into Question
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.christianpost.com/news/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-cases-bring-religions-practices-into-question-127738/jehovah's witnesses' child sex abuse cases bring religion's practices into questionchristian post.
by sami k. martin, christian post reporter october 8, 2014|1:43 pm.
the jehovah's witnesses have a silent epidemic of child abuse that was recently brought to public attention again after four alleged victims filed lawsuits against the organization.. there are over 7 million jehovah's witnesses across the globe, according to the group's website.
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My brother is one the most prolific child abusers in this organization. He was DF"d at least four times before he was 35 but we were never told why and he lived in another state, raised by an elder Uncle and his wife. He was reinstated and went back up to elder every time as he is smart and slick as a whip.
THEY KNEW WHAT HE WAS HOWEVER! Long story short he confessed to me as he was about to commit suicide with one victim and I went into action and fought my whole family. He was DF'd by a special committee but was back in 3 years and in the Spanish congregations.
One elder warned them (Spanish cong) but they didn't listen and the society threatened to remove the elder, doing the warning. This is a long story so I won't go into it but he reaffended and we found out he had been doing this since the 1960's. I hunt him down like a hound dog. He is still a witness in good standing and has slipped under the radar in Arizona working again as a school bus driver we hear. All the previous DF including one where they said he would be out for 20 years or more was for pedophilia and no one told the over 200 JW in his family.
I say this to show I have proof they will know and protect an offender. I was called on the morning of his judicial committee to see how he was getting away with this with elders listening in. He confessed to me that over 20 elders were in a sex ring with pioneers and wife swapping and that if they told on him he would tell on them. Some of you may remember the Cleveland Ohio scandal in the late 1980"s .
I went to the police and they said the victims had to report since all had turned 18 or even one was 24. They were pioneers and brainwashed. Thus my reason for going to school to be a psycho-therapist to learn what messes up a child's mind to do this. He was raised a witness from infancy like all of us.
They know it is true but uses the two witness thing as a shield. I will hunt my brother down no matter where he settles.
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New teaching! ...the end is NOT near by GB Steven Lett
by apocalypse inhave you watched some 'dub tv' yet?
it's very interesting.
steven lett of the gigglin brothers, put his foot right in watchtower's big mouth.
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Armageddon is not Judgement day so non witnesses as well as other religions and non religious people will survive. It is the take over of the system so we will have the good non witnesses taking care of electricity and flushing toilets etc. Like Noah's day the time when Agels ruled the world ended but those men born of Adam (not nephillim) were ransomed also by Jesus as they died in Adamic sin and it is ransomed.
So he got it right by default that the world will still go on. Only rulership will change and those that fought Israel and Jesus will come back and learn of him . Isaiah and the prophets tells us that.
So once they are right, Lett you did good.
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Bible Students Question
by lambsbottom ini've know ttatt for over three years.
stopped going to meetings three months ago.
i recently contacted the bible students.
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Allforshow, JWFacts.com and friendsofjehovahwitnesses.com under "Ask Jacqueline" have whole articles on how to fade and be successful.
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Bible Students Question
by lambsbottom ini've know ttatt for over three years.
stopped going to meetings three months ago.
i recently contacted the bible students.
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lambsbottom, this is Jacqueline again. I know what you are saying and how you feel about being controled by any religion again. My one advantage I guess was I knew of was a Bible Student/JW and knew they were not like the witnesses. My grandfather was a contemporary of Br. Russell and my mother went over. The black brothers n my area mostly went over also as things basically didn't change. We still study whatever books we voted on and voted our elders into position and voted them out also, as only the cong. knew these men and when appointments began many just let it be.
There is no comitment with the Bible Students but they are strictly bible and can mindblow on what some scriptures really say. Most have higher education however, even in the sciences. I find they don't believe in evil speaking or gossiping about each other. They are rather humble as they strive to be on a personal accountability to God. They believe the scriptures that says he knows everything, but it does not put a stop or crimp in his plan. They don't require re-baptism, you may if you like. They express the way they see the scripture and accept other points of view.
I post here, support sixscreens, JWFacts. Some of the brothers use Barbara Anderson's site for research. I am going to see David Jeremiah in Indianapolis Oct. 23, 2014 and report how I was encouraged. No one will do anything to me. I have gone to another outreach in Chicago as a Bible Student gave a Thanksgiving discussion to the indigent Church. They witness where it is needed to inform not to convert. To comfort and give hope not to convert. Some are conservative, some are not but work together beautifully without a central org. It is truly amazing and I HAVE TRIED THEM OUT. I have literally attended many conventions and facets to see just like you say, they are not perfect no men are but they are a COLD GLASS OF FRESH WATER ON A HOT, DRY DAY. Visit the site and read first all the subjects and prepare to be shocked on how thw governinbody changed everything. Also if you look closely you will see the announcements from this site on our site even some comments are posted by me on the site. I might dress them up a bit but a true JWN will know it came from this site. The truth is the truth. We are all in the same boat, I grabbed me a few paddles.
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Sister pleads guilty to killing her newborn while at congregation outing!
by Atlantis inhttp://social.jw-archive.org/articles/sister-pleads-guilty-to-killing-her-baby-while-at-congregation-ou#sthash.xzojqlck.dpuf.
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nevada!.
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Thanks for reposting I never knew about this so I will post on our site. I deal with peodophilia and cases of abuse with adult victims and this just one more reason why fear and intimidation has to be addressed. I will use this in a custody case hearing of how the child will be raised in an environ of fear. Her mother is lesbian and was DF'd so her JW parents and my son are trying to take her child so she will survive armageddon. The mother was molested and was afraid to tell parents she was gay. Hope this helps me explain to judge what being raised under my strict JW son and wife will do to this child possibly. She is only eight now but my son says he is willing to die for the governingbody, so you see why I need all the ammo I can to help the mother.
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berrygerry, the friends site has all the info to the left are articles and to the right are different links. The website is made up for ex-JW only basically.
This is a recent discourse on the Gentile times running out in 1914. The Jews no longer were under nations the Barfour declaration started their freedom and in 1948 Israel became a nation.
Under 1914 times of the gentiles, on the friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com site to the left click on it for what almost all of the Bible Students believe. Also remember we have to make the Bible our own and be convinced ourselves as we believe individually is how Jehovah deals with us. We meet together in homes to discuss encourage and we engage in aavenues of preaching where ever there are people.
Isaiah 19:19-20 is where the passage believed to refer to the Great pyramid of Gezer. I personally have not looked into it in depth as I am not convinced for or against the explanation given by Br. Russell. Not all Bible Students accept things that are not clearlyt stated but will discuss or take note.
ALLFORSHOW: Many didn't believe me either when I said I have found the Bible Students. Rick on sixscreens did 2 phone interviews in 2011- and 2013 General conventions with many Bible Student elders. He still has this listed under Bible Students.
A JW elder called Bethel with a Dawn Bible elder listening and asked how are witnesses to view the Bible Students? The then vice pres. (The elders personal friend) said they are our friends view them as brothers. He was well aware they never died out. An App christian resources will give you discourse from way back until now.
To see actual conventions being held and talks. Click on conventions. This year, (2014) we invited witnesses to view on adobe connect and the board filled to capacity and dipped over in another board to accomodate. They were astonished also.
Many more can answer you directly on the site and we are planning to hold an internet on line question and answer in the future. I will announce here if admin allows it.
We are all working for a common cause here to heal and help each other get over and thru that horrible system we were under. Jacqueline
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Hi everybody this is Jacqueline, I will come back later read thru comments and answer any questions. We could also answer live tonight on our phone in bible study with Bible student elder and all others are men , x elders from Jehovah witnesses. I can tell them you want a question and answer tonight. Go to the site for the phone number it is under wednesday night studies. www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com.
I am babysitting 4 grands on fall break and at the dentist all day with them. This is a JW household and I sort of sneak to go on sites. Don't want to cause my son problems if the nanny find out I am a so-called apostate. Family knows I am Bible student as Mom was one. Be back later.