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  “My Dream Has Come True” latest tower last page

  by therevealer in

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  "my dream has come true" i have a bullshite story in the latest watchtower..

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  Please give concrete examples.
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  Love & Living up to Dedication = Serving Abroad & Not Going to University (July 15, 2012 WT)

  by pirata in

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  looks like there's a new series, "they offered themselves willingly".

  here's how it opens:.

  a young brother in italy was under pressure.

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  pirata

  Looks like there's a new series, "They Offered Themselves Willingly"

  Here's how it opens:

  A YOUNG brother in Italy was under pressure. He had just graduated from high school with the highest grades in his class, and now relatives and teachers were urging him to pursue higher education. Some years earlier, though, Bruno had dedicated himself to Jehovah, promising to put God’s will foremost in his life. What choice did he make? He explains: “I told Jehovah in prayer that I would live up to my dedication and put him first. But I honestly added in my prayer that I wanted, not a dull life, but one filled with a variety of activities in his service.”

  The remainder of the article has many experiences of young ones to moved to other lands to preach (check out jw.org to read the rest)

  It ends with:

  WHAT ABOUT YOU?

  Young brothers and sisters, do your circumstances allow you to serve in a land where there is a greater need for Kingdom proclaimers? Of course, making a big decision like that will require careful planning. Above all else, a strong love for Jehovah and neighbor is necessary for such a move. If you have that love and otherwise qualify, pray earnestly to Jehovah about this matter of serving abroad. Further, talk to your Christian parents and the congregation elders about your desire. You may come to the conclusion that you too can have a share in this exciting and satisfying form of sacred service.
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  How Will the Society React to the Hundred Year Anniversary of 1914?

  by slimboyfat in

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  it's only a couple of years away now and what a headache it must present to the gb - providing they have given it much thought already.

  there probably is no elegant way of presenting the hundred year long failure of the end to come; the fact that the "short period of time" of satan being cast down to the earth has now stretched beyond any credibility.

  but they have to deal with it one way or another.

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  1. My votes for this. I doubt the Governing Body will every make another date prediction, it's burned the organization too many times in the past.

  5. An article last year stated that the 120 years has no significance: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/201505/1/Throwing-a-wet-blanket-on-2034
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  Where is Outlaw?

  by Iamallcool in

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  he is one of my favorite posters, i look him up from time to time.

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  Outlaw...

  We are waiting for you....

  
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  The Flood - ? So how did kangaroos get to Australia? How come they are no where else?

  by BroMac in

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  *** w62 1/15 p. 64 questions from readers ***.

  questions from readers.

  how can we account for animals in isolated lands when the flood is said to have covered all the earth and the only land animals that survived were those in the ark?p.

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  Why bother to explain it scientifically. Evidently God brought the animals to Noah, Noah herded them on the ark, God also prevented the animals from eating each other or having too many bowel movements. After the flood, God quickly restored the natural habitat required by animals, and put them back. He also created pockets of freshwater that did not mix with the saltwater so that freshwater marine animals wouldn't die.

  Now that begs the question, wouldn't it have been easier for God to send an angel and kill all the bad people instead of drowning billions of animals?
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  Were Elders told to mention the Faithful Slave / Governing Body / Organization more?

  by pirata in

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  as of 5 years ago in my congregation, the "faithful slave" was rarely mentioned in talks, prayers, etc.

  usually it was all about jehovah, and jesus got his token phrase at the end of a prayer with "in jesus name, amen".. now, in the past couple years i've noticed, especially since the elders have gone to the elders school, almost everytime an elder prays, and in many of the talks, there is mention of the faithful slave, organization, or governing body.

  "thank you jehovah for giving us your organization, which provides us food at the proper time", "how thankful we are that the faithful slave provides..", etc.. for any elders who went to the elders school, did they specifically say to build more appreciation in the organization, faithful slave, etc.

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  As of 5 years ago in my congregation, the "Faithful Slave" was rarely mentioned in talks, prayers, etc. Usually it was all about Jehovah, and Jesus got his token phrase at the end of a prayer with "In Jesus Name, Amen".

  Now, in the past couple years I've noticed, especially since the elders have gone to the elders school, almost everytime an elder prays, and in many of the talks, there is mention of the faithful slave, organization, or Governing Body. "Thank you Jehovah for giving us your organization, which provides us food at the proper time", "How thankful we are that the Faithful Slave provides..", etc.

  For any elders who went to the elders school, did they specifically say to build more appreciation in the organization, faithful slave, etc. in prayers and talks?
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  I just asked the JW website for a home visit...

  by TimeBandit in

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  i just went and filled out the form asking to be visited.

  i hope they come soon so i can work my super apostate magic!

  uh, if the super apostate magic doesn't work, i'll just let my huge great danes out onto the porch and freak the witnesses out followed by kicking them off my front porch... .

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  I'll just let my huge Great Danes out onto the porch and freak the witnesses out followed by kicking them off my front porch...

  I hope you are joking. If you serious, please try not to let any anger (or whatever the case may be) at the organization justify treating a couple JWs (whom you personally requested to come to your home), so badly.
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  How do JW's and their apologists' explain this?

  by ldrnomo in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/study-ancestors-used-fire-million-years-ago-190741815.html.

  when i was in, articles like this always used to rub my cognicent dissanence the wrong way .

  how can jw's and other fundamentalist religion's except adam and eve as the start of all mankind some 6000 years ago?.

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  That's an easy one. First you say "Carbon Dating is dependent on the amount of sunlight. The Water Canopy before the flood affected the amount of sunlight, thus throwing off the modern-day assumptions about carbon dating."

  Then the atheist retorts that that carbon dating is only useful for dating in the past 60,000 years (AND that variations of carbon in the atmosphere are calibrated with tree rings), and that there are other radioactive clocks with much longer half lives for dating older samples which are not dependent on the amount of sunlight.

  So at that point you say "I believe the Bible, Evolution is only a theory, Do you think the people who created the fire came about by chance?, Maybe lightning hit some logs that an animal was sitting on, etc."
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  TO ALL LURKERS: the WTS approves of parents humilating their children!

  by Chemical Emotions in

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  no person can escape rendering an account to god.

  5 after showing that children are not free from rendering an account, the apostle paul goes on to stress the obligation of the parents before god: "and you, fathers, do not be irritating your children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and authoritative advice of jehovah.

  since parents will render an account for the way they bring up their children, the question arises: what is jehovah's discipline?.

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  Watchtower 1963, August 15, pg. 496.
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  Scholastic Dishonesty - June 2012 Awake - Jewish Exile Timeline

  by Ultimate Reality in

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  the june 2012 awake has another article on the exile of the jews by the babylonians.

  once again the wt quotes dishonestly.. .

  from page 14:.

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  Thanks for pointing this out!

  The quotation was referring to ALL the nations that Babylon was conquering, not just Judah:

  The savage Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem is well documented both in the Bible (in the books of Jeremiah and Lamentations) and in the archaeological record. When Nebuchadnezzar first placed the city under siege in 597 B.C.E., the city quickly capitulated, thereby avoiding a general destruction. But in response to a revolt by Judah’s King Zedekiah, Nebuchadnezzar dispatched an army that, after an 18-month siege, captured and destroyed the city in 586 B.C.E. The evidence of this destruction is widely confirmed in Jerusalem excavations.a

  On his first swing through Judah, Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed much of Philistia—Ekron, Tel Batash, Tell Jemmeh, Ruqeish and Tel Sera‘. Particularly devastated was Ashkelon, which the Babylonians sacked in 604 B.C.E.b

  Similar evidence of Babylonian destruction can be found throughout the Beersheba Valley, in the Aravah (the valley south of the Dead Sea) and in the Jordan River valley. From south to north, we can trace the effects of Babylonian might—at Tell el-Kheleifeh on the coast of the Red Sea, at Ein Gedi on the shore of the Dead Sea, and further north at Dan, the source of the Jordan River. The same is true in excavations at major northern sites—Hazor; Megiddo, overlooking the Jezreel Valley; and Dor, on the Mediterranean coast—and in central Judah, where, in addition to Jerusalem, we may look at Ramat Rahel and Lachish, among other sites.

  But the strange thing is that above the remains left by these destructions, we find no evidence of occupation until the Persian period, which began in about 538 B.C.E. For roughly half a century—from 604 B.C.E. to 538 B.C.E.—there is a complete gap in evidence suggesting occupation. In all that time, not a single town destroyed by the Babylonians was resettled.1 This is true even of the old Assyrian fortresses along the Way of the Sea (the Via Maris); they were reoccupied only in the Persian period, as shown by the recently excavated fort at Rishon le-Zion.2 The only indications of a Babylonian presence in Palestine are the massive destruction levels the Babylonians left behind. These are indeed impressive, but there is nothing above them that can be attributed to the Babylonian period.

  Read what the last paragraph has to say:

  It is interesting that in archaeological parlance there is no clearly defined period called “Babylonian.” Indeed, the Babylonian gap is implied by the time charts typically found in Bible handbooks: The destruction of Judah is followed by the Persian period, when, following the eclipse of the Babylonians by the comparatively benign Persians, the Jewish exiles were permitted to return to Palestine.

  I do not mean to imply that the country was uninhabited during the period between the Babylonian destruction and the Persian period. There were undoubtedly some settlements, but the population was very small. Many towns and villages were either completely or partly destroyed. The rest were barely functioning. International trade virtually ceased. Only two regions appear to have been spared this fate—the northern part of Judah (the region of Benjamin) and probably the land of Ammon, although the latter region awaits further investigation.13