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  A SISTER IS AFRAID SHE WILL GET MARKED

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  yesterday, a friend told me that she has been secretly dating a non- witness.

  she plans on marrying him and will tell about her relationship only after she is married.

  she is worried that she will be marked.

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  MrMonroe

  I just LOVE that word "fornication". they do request a meeting and ask if any "fornication" occurred.

  Where else in the world can one refer to sex only as "fornication"? It makes it sound so dirty, like a disease. It's a phrase so heavily laden with Amish-style 1800s atitudes. Even when otherwise normal, modern adults in the congregation talk about people being DFd, they always lower their voices, glance around, and mutter, "I think there was fornication involved."

  Chaperones, "a view to marriage", self-abuse, "committing immorality" ... what are some other of those quaint Victorian-era WT phrases and attitudes?
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  "JW" Says Donor Organs Cause Personality Changes (and other nonsense) on TV!

  by mummatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.4thought.tv/4thoughts/0354-derek-house-should-organ-donation-be-made-compulsory-.

  4thought.tv asks if organ donations should be compulsory.

  derek house is a jehovahs witness who believes an organ transplant could lead to the recipient having a change of personality.. this was on tv here in the uk this week.i couldn't believe my eyes and ears when i saw this!note the comments - many of them are defending jws saying he can't really be one.

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  Still doesn't work in Australia.
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  Little Do Non-JWS know but that is God's plan: Destroy the governments and put jws in charge

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a tidbit from our convention here in amarillo .

  this is not a. spoiler.

  the item was included in our closing talk and related to the entire.

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  MrMonroe

  It's the sort of thing a bored city council bureacrat might have said in an offhand comment after touring the printing press, scrambling for any comment or compliment.

  Just how much his innocuous comment "Hey, we better watch out, with this sort of micro-management you'll be running the country soon!" was brushed up and rewritten by writing committees before being excreted at a DC is another thing.
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  Awesome quote from the Watchtower!

  by TimothyT in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this awesome quote from the book captives of a concept:.

  beware of "organization.

  it is wholly unnecessary.

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  MrMonroe

  A comprehensive article on the split is at Wikipedia here.

  It was a very nasty business, where Rutherford began imposing his own harsh personality on the Bible Student movement. If there was such a thing as a faithful slave class or governing body at the time, he very clearly ignored and overruled both in order to get what he wanted.

  The WTS has never been able to explain that ... and continues to denigrate as "ambitious" and "cunning" the majority of the WTBTS seven-man board who wanted Rutherford's feathers clipped.
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  Little Do Non-JWS know but that is God's plan: Destroy the governments and put jws in charge

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a tidbit from our convention here in amarillo .

  this is not a. spoiler.

  the item was included in our closing talk and related to the entire.

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  MrMonroe

  I think any organisation or government would long for a membership that was so compliant and obliging, willing to work so hard for nothing but the promise of a future reward.

  But of course the only organisation that could achieve that sort of work ethic, combined with absolute obedience, is .... a cult.
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  Rutherford and the new DVD

  by truthlover in

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  2. friends

  can anyone tell me why rutherford is not shown giving a talk or speaking in public?

  i noticed that russell was on film in the first dvd -out of darkness but rutherford was shown in a picture only - never speaking or doing a public presentation, same goes for the second one -they have an actor portraying him... was there a reason?

  was his persona that bad?

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  He was also in large part responsible for the mentality and outlook of the WTS today. He was paranoid, vindictive, ignorant, judgmental, self-obsessed, vengeful, petty, power-hungry, controlling, belligerent, unforgiving, uncharitable and deceitful. In no particular order.
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  Tonight I disassociated myself - after 24 years - had 2 hour meeting with Elder

  by Intel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am now sitting at home.

  my wife left with my little child.

  my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.

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  MrMonroe

  Why should others pay for your freedom?

  What the hell does that even mean??
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  Extraordinary events and amazing coincidences: why do JWs always attribute them to God?

  by MrMonroe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  MrMonroe

  @Losthobbit, No, Witnesses say bad things happen because of time and unforseen occurence. Dying is bad. Conversely, when good things happen, it's because of God and the angels ... or the universe responded to their generosity in the amount of time they spent in field service..
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  Pangs of Conscience - June 2011 KM

  by dozy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is an article in the latest kingdom ministry about counting time spent in the ministry.

  one comment surprised me - it says that counting time wrongly can lead to "pangs of conscience".

  a bit of an ott expression , i can't help thinking.. the only pangs the local pioneers are concerned about here are hunger pangs as they head to dunkin donuts for a 40 minute "break".

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  MrMonroe

  For most of our final year in the org, my wife, who feared an elder's visit if we failed to report, would fill out the form and ask me what I'd done for the month. I'd tell her, "Zero." She'd round it up to the nearest two hours.

  I wonder if the annual report of hours spent witnessing (1,604,764,248 for 2010 if you want to be precise) was presented as a pie graph, how much of the pie would be actual time spent talking to people.
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  Convention without a 'Badge'

  by IMHO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended a convention recently but didn't wear a badge i was treated with the utmost suspicion.

  particularly when i arrived during the sessions one day.

  the attendant didn't want me wandering off to find a seat on my own.

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  MrMonroe

  Puzzling. I don't recall wearing badges for the last few years I attended DCs in Melbourne. Never noticed any strange looks.