trying to have sex on FB reminds me of that Woody Allen movie where he attempts the impossible too... this is so crazy...next they'll be choosing what colour underwear is inappropriate..assuming you all wear any!
Posts by jdhf
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JWs having Facebook Sex - Strongly warned to get off FB at CA yesterday
by shopaholic inso it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.
the talk was solely about fb.
the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.
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JWs having Facebook Sex - Strongly warned to get off FB at CA yesterday
by shopaholic inso it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.
the talk was solely about fb.
the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.
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jdhf
By the way...zombie dub..I loved your post. Nearly wet myself!
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JWs having Facebook Sex - Strongly warned to get off FB at CA yesterday
by shopaholic inso it appears that jws are letting their freaky side come out on fb for everyone to see.. there was talk on the ca yesterday strongly warning all true lovers of jehovah to delete their fb accounts.
the talk was solely about fb.
the speaker mentioned that jws are associating with people that would not associate with in real life, often using the excuse that the person is a relative.
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jdhf
You know...I did wonder how long it would be before the brothers decided to put and end to the FB thing. High control groups would hate FB as they cannot determine everything you do. It's sad really as I know lots will adhere to this...if I was still following the society I probably have grudgingly deleted mine too, albeit for good reasons and trusting their 'divine' guidance. If Jesus were alive today on earth I wonder what he would think of it. I have found so many friends that I lost contact with years ago...how can that be a bad thing.. and as for the bad associations and terribly worldly people...well... didn't Jesus himself associate with what the brothers would consider today as the scum of the earth?? For some, it's the only contact they have with friends and family. Anyone who condemns that needs their head examined...
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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jdhf
THank you agonus, double life, poopsiecakes, freydo, wobble, awake and watching.... for your thoughtful and kind remarks..it has and is a hard road and I hope will get easier. There will still be hurdles to get across e.g. letting my friends know and see if they are too indoctrinated to still be friends, even after so many years. Acolytes...sorry but I disagree with you totally... my heart is full of love for all people and the love I have for Jah and Jesus compelled me to leave the 'truth', as the teachings are false. If Jesus came down to earth today would he REALLY find the true religion? I don't think so. Organised religion lets itself be overcome with power over its adherents' lives, and through faulty human nature simply cannot as a group adhere to true christian teachings. I think only individuals would be found by him. Organizations are by their very nature too flawed.. and the draw to control is too great. I have read where those on the GB said that if they didn't 'control' us, we would be too likely to do anything. So much for faith in individual faith and trust in human nature. I would have found the brothers better if they really treated us with more love and understanding, just like Jesus did. He epitomised the true meaning of love. I think he would be disgusted at those who profess to represent his father. I think Jah would agree with me.
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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jdhf
thanks jookbeard....my mums from Lincoln and was raised CofE and hates ALL organised religion.. she's right.
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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jdhf
p.s. sorry for the double post!!
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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jdhf
I agree with Sir Nose above... I am in the process of leaving after 17 years....raising my daughters in Catholic Ireland, amid great persecution from schoolmates, teachers, principals, friends, family etc. People tend to 'leave' over doctrinal issues. The service here is hard as you fight against hundreds of years of Catholic teachings. So many here are from divided homes and get persecution from mates.. what made it really hurtful for me is that I put up with all of this opposition as did my girls, and then i find out it's not really the truth at all. So, after embarrasing myself for all those years at the doors and standing up for the Witnesses all the time, what do I have left?? What do my kids have? My 12 year old was devestated when I told her I was leaving. She wanted to be baptized this year. She wants to know if the paradise is really coming and I don't knnow what the heck to tell her.. They both want to know why we forwent celebrating xmas and b/days etc., in a country where these things are REALLY celebrated, unnecessarily. I can't answer them. I no longer have any answers for them. I wonder how much I did think was true is still true.. and I have, at the tender age of 41, to start again. I know I can't follow a religion if so many prophecies, rules etc., are not bible based and I stand with that, but after you learn the truth isn't that.. do we have anything else? I know there are many here that are either angry, diffident, apathetic etc, but I'm still at angry, and sad too. It is a great tragedy to lose something you hold so precious, to find that nothing can replace it, at least not yet. I do believe in Jehovah and Jesus.. but that's all I have, and the shirt on my back.. don't even mention my fear at possibly losing those I hold dear in congs all over the world. A local priest happened to call round last night and he actually listened to me. He was sensitive and a genuine christian and had some good words of wisdom. He's right.. there are good people in all religions and that's what really matters.. so I choose not to totally lose my faith in humanity and plod along and hope i find a new cramped narrow road for my family not ruled by paralyzing doctrine and false hearts.. :)
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JWs don't leave the organization over doctrine
by doublelife incan anyone help me with a quote from a publication studied in '09 that had a box that said jws leave over selfish reasons but not over doctrine?
i think it was studied in the bs but i can't find it and i already tried the search feature.
i remember someone posted about it at the time it was studied.
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jdhf
I agree with Sir Nose above... I am in the process of leaving after 17 years....raising my daughters in Catholic Ireland, amid great persecution from schoolmates, teachers, principals, friends, family etc. People tend to 'leave' over doctrinal issues. The service here is hard as you fight against hundreds of years of Catholic teachings. So many here are from divided homes and get persecution from mates.. what made it really hurtful for me is that I put up with all of this opposition as did my girls, and then i find out it's not really the truth at all. So, after embarrasing myself for all those years at the doors and standing up for the Witnesses all the time, what do I have left?? What do my kids have? My 12 year old was devestated when I told her I was leaving. She wanted to be baptized this year. She wants to know if the paradise is really coming and I don't knnow what the heck to tell her.. They both want to know why we forwent celebrating xmas and b/days etc., in a country where these things are REALLY celebrated, unnecessarily. I can't answer them. I no longer have any answers for them. I wonder how much I did think was true is still true.. and I have, at the tender age of 41, to start again. I know I can't follow a religion if so many prophecies, rules etc., are not bible based and I stand with that, but after you learn the truth isn't that.. do we have anything else? I know there are many here that are either angry, diffident, apathetic etc, but I'm still at angry, and sad too. It is a great tragedy to lose something you hold so precious, to find that nothing can replace it, at least not yet. I do believe in Jehovah and Jesus.. but that's all I have, and the shirt on my back.. don't even mention my fear at possibly losing those I hold dear in congs all over the world. A local priest happened to call round last night and he actually listened to me. He was sensitive and a genuine christian and had some good words of wisdom. He's right.. there are good people in all religions and that's what really matters.. so I choose not to totally lose my faith in humanity and plod along and hope i find a new cramped narrow road for my family not ruled by paralyzing doctrine and false hearts.. :)
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Helping others
by jdhf ini have recently become aware of many inconsistencies that we teach as jw's and it has really distressed me.
a few from our cong here in ireland get together and discuss the real truth from the bible.
we were wondering teh best road to go down to help others find out thetruth, without being labelled as apostates, esp at assemblies etc.
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jdhf
I have recently become aware of many inconsistencies that we teach as JW's and it has really distressed me. A few from our cong here in Ireland get together and discuss the REAL truth from the bible. We were wondering teh best road to go down to help others find out theTRUTH, without being labelled as apostates, esp at assemblies etc. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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A Sphere is Not a Circle
by AK - Jeff inthis thread was inspired by the poster here with that moniker.
that name, for the first time in my life, caused me to think deeply about the scriptural real meaning of the phrase used in isaiah, often used by biblical defenders to show it's inspiration by god.. i googled the phrase, and among other hits, found this little blogspace with comments that echoed my thought on the matter.. http://www.youngausskeptics.com/2008/12/what-you-really-think-a-sphere-is-a-circle-you-really-think-that/.
found it interesting.. jeff.
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jdhf
elsewhere...I think you mean 'formulae'...