Hey guys (and gals)...brings back too many nights of nightmares...and as an adult too! I was TERRIFIED of someone hurting my girls... My daughter A had many sleepless nights worrying about being separated from me during the G Trib. It's things horror movies are made of... There's still an 80 yr old bro in my old hall terrified if he can't get his meds during it....should he have to worry about such things?? How can the GB justify terrifying the bejeebes out of so many people??
Posts by jdhf
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35Does anybody else feel relieved that they won't be tortured during the great tribulation?
by doublelife ini grew up hearing about different ways people have been tortured in the past and was always scared of going through that during the gt.
it was always an unhealthy obsession of mine.
i always thought that i was more worried about it than other jws and that i would end up renouncing my faith to get out of it.
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Engineer: "This was not an earthquake disaster"
by betterdaze inthe audience at last tuesdays uc berkeley lecture given by eduardo fierro, one of the first u.s. earthquake engineers to visit post-quake haiti, collectively cringed as fierro showed slide after slide of haphazard columns, brittle frames, and slipshod rods and joints.
this was not an earthquake disaster, fierro said.
fierro, a peruvian native who has worked around the pacific rim, arrived in haiti within two days of the earthquake to investigate the destruction caused to the countrys built environment.
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jdhf
Thank you for this... I have studied geology specialising in earthquakes and volcanoes and it is amazing to see how so much activity need not cause so much devestation! Humans like to cut corners and look at the consequences! All needless tragedy.
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Why 'Apostates' Are All The More Remarkable
by metatron ini was watching an interview with hank paulson ( big time former government official who pushed all the humongous bailouts of banks into being).. he was the ultimate diplomat referring to bush ( who couldn't even put together a coherent sentence) as a skilled politician who understood the dangers involved, pelosi as "cooperative" ( yeah, sure), and others in complimentary terms.. it all resembles the final scenes of the novel "catch-22", in which the main character (yossarian) is told that he can be free if he agrees to love and speak well about his superiors.. this is the normal response: you lie thru your teeth about the ignorant, venial thugs who ordered you around, even after you are free of them because you probably are never totally free from them!
you kissed a$$ when you were around them and so it's not difficult to continue doing it now.. "opposing", being an "apostate" may require a greater sense of self sacrifice than the 'righteous' behavior that preceeded it!
why not just lie and say, 'the governing body are great guys", 'bethel service is the closest thing to paradise", 'this really is the "truth'".. metatron.
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i have read all of the above and agree with nearly all remarks.. I am adding a link a friend sent that helped her sort our her brain and emotions. I would have been very wary of apostates before, and now, if my thoughts were known in the cong., would be considered one. i am battling with this concept as mind control is very insideous and hard to let go of. Let me know what you think of this site. I know my path is going to be difficult and I don't kind saying right now, at the moment, I think periodically was I better off in ignorance? In my heart I know I hate lies, but I knew where I was and who I was. Now, I son't know what there is and it kills me at times. I want to know that something better is around the corner, I just can't see it right now.
http://mindfulconstruct.com/2009/06/28/dysfunctional-beliefs-of-a-jehovahs-witness-apostate/
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JW Tall Tales
by lancelink inrecently i was cleaning my bookcase and found an old book that i enjoyed as a child.
it had stories in it such as paul bunyan, pecos bill, and john henry.
while these stories are fictional, i enjoyed them because they were entertaining, and easy to understand.. fast forward to the late 70's when i was a teenager sitting at the ca hall in janesville wisconsin.. the speaker was explaining the great sacrifice god made in sending his son down to earth to die for all mankind.
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Hey there highdose...yeah..I met a sister from Dublin a few years ago and she told me that when she broke up with her husband she had no money and went to the meeting as usual and on her return there was a large box of food miraculously left outside her door! She did seem dead honest though.. so I can't judge that one!
I had a lovely necklace a few years ago with a little cross that I had bought in Yugoslavia and had it for years. When i started studying I was told that I had to destroy it. I did and I regret it now. Also i had a mask that was brought back from Guatemala for us and I had to burn that too... and maori items from NZ from when I was born... it makes me sad to think of it all.
I heard that angel story too.. only there was only one and the man at the door got baptized. Also in a year book was the story of a sister about to be raped in an african country and all the men went blind....
In hindsight I had a big ol' sign saying 'naive' on my head. I fell for them all! I feel like an 'eejit' now...hooray for the 'real' truth!
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My mom got stumbled by today's Watchtower
by JerkhovahsWitless inthe photo on page 26. she noticed it and was wondering before i even brought it to her attention.. why is it ok for the jw posing as the "worldly person" to wear a cross necklace?
aren't jws suppose to destroy their crosses prior to becoming a jw no matter the monetary or sentimental value?
why can the watchtower keep cross necklaces on hand as props?
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Its funny how this topic has come up...I knew there was something else that had been bothering me for years...and all those 'lit' cigarettes that were used in the live forever book, etc., really interesting! I asked a Gilead grad many years ago who was really knowledgable and as far as I remember she didn't have an answer either!! My daughter R., when she was really small was very disturbed that there were even Bibles in the library with crosses on them. At the time I said they were for research purposes, but if you view the cross as pagan, then it doesn't make sense.
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Tattoos/Piercings?
by Think About It ini feel like woody allen in the 1973 movie "the sleeper".
i leave in 1995, wake up 15 yrs later to see what has been going on in the jw religion and find out it is completely different from what i left.
i started a thread about beards, because i wanted to know how the modern day beard and goatee fad went over in the kh's.. now i'm curious about the tattoo, piercings and short or shaved hair look.
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dig 692...don't you mean 'the end is rear'??
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Christmas & JW objection
by Luo bou to injw's reject christmas because of its pagan origins.
it's not what it meant to people in the distant past that matters but what it means to us living today.
does anyone today visit a person's house see a christmas tree and think oooh he must be a pagan.
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Psac..I agree it is a personal choice...we need to use our OWN consciences and NOT those of others....and that IS a biblical fact.
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Can anyone here read and write Russian?
by asilentone incontact sidex, he is new here at the board, look at his first topic.
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some yes...why?
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Ex-Witnesses in Ireland...
by jdhf inhey there....i've been noticing that there are quite a few support groups in other countries for those who leave the 'truth'.
i am appealing to those who are in the emerald isle to see if there is any chance we can get together and enjoy 'real' association, being of same minds etc.
anyway... i will put this out there and hopefully those in ireland will get in touch and we can support each other!
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haha besty very funny...
hey Ed., I'm in co.longford...let me know 'who you know'..:)
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I'm a Dead Man!
by RR ingoogled myself today .... i'm dead!.
6th body found following weekend swim tragedy 7th person feared dead as search goes on in michigan .
article from:chicago sun-times .
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jdhf
I thought we didn't believe in reincarnation?