Plankton?!? How many pages of this BS are you trying to fill?!? You have filled nearly14 out of 16 with your own posts. Jeshe kid, get a life will ya?
dc
http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.
Plankton?!? How many pages of this BS are you trying to fill?!? You have filled nearly14 out of 16 with your own posts. Jeshe kid, get a life will ya?
dc
It is a very interesting thing to say the least. For the life of me I cannot understand how/why people can control other people so effectively and easily. Even before the internet the contidictions of the WTS are so overwhelming that I often think 'how can you continue to believe this "truth"?'
ei- Soul is mentioned in scripture some 900 times and has numerous meanings. How could you possibly believe that you could sum up what the soul is with one scripture verse? Jesus most certainly declares himself as God [john 8;58]. The Jews around him were going to stone him for blasphemy. John 1 In the beginning was the word. Not in the beginning the word was created, no, it was already there and the verse that says the word was a god. Come on, did I read that in the book of a john?
Not morons, just easily controlled.
dc
http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.
Oh Plankton,
Once you change a few words in the bible then the door is open to change 'em all until it really does say what you want it to say.
won't you ever learn?
dc
how and whom forms the great apostasy?.
is it not true, that for one to apotasize from the true faith, he/she would have to have first to have fully known the truth of the bible; such as in the case of judas iscariot who deliberately betrayed the master knowing full-well what he was doing?
would it not also be true, for any of the twelve apostles, had they have followed the lead of judas, it could be said of them, that they had apostasized?
The idea that there was an apostasy is quite common among groups that have limited history [hello Mormons and JWs]. Lots of 'look around and you can see', but never any proof. There is plenty of proof that there was no apostasy though....plenty.
dc
http://www.themadjws.com/thercvbible.htm.
oh Plankton, won't you ever learn?
warmly,
dc
something like: "would jesus do that/go there?
" i tell them: "would he own a luxurious bmw or mercendes?".
what are some quotes/expressions invented by jw's that really pissed you off?.
I'm fond of a few that my brother and his 'converters' throw at me like....
'That's polishing the brass on a sinking ship' - reply to the use of Catholic orphanages and hospitals
'Lying for the truth' - That's wrong on so many levels
'That's because it doesn't agree with your mental taste' - on biblical interpretations that were so off the wall that I had to protest.
dc
"jesus did not die on the cross" .
a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.
gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.
Mary, Leolaia [ can I call you Leo?], PSacramento, notacaptive, madsweeny, titus and many others. Great posts....sorry, I started posting before reading all the pages, so I see that I restated some earlier points.
Some of the threads on this site I could never get enough time to read, but all these posts are well worth the time. Thanks all!
dc
"jesus did not die on the cross" .
a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.
gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.
More evidence supporting death by cross is found in Ezekiel 9:4,6 when God himself commands that the Tau be placed on the foreheads of the righteous. This is 8 verses after Tammuz worship is condemned [Ez8:14].
2 other early Christian writers [Tertullian and Origen] considered this to be a prefigurement of the cross of Christ.
Tertullian said 'In all our travels, in our coming in and going out, in putting on our clothes and our shoes, at table, in going to rest, what everemployment occupies us, we mark our forhead with the sign of the cross' The Chaplet [De Corona].
Any evidence at all to support a torture stake has never been found....aside from WTS publications.
respectively,
dc
if samuelsson is right about crucifixion all lexica need revision.
last friday gunnar samuelsson successfylly defended his thesis "crucifixion in antiquity: an inquiry into the background of the new testament terminology of crucifixion" at gothenburg university (supervisor samuel byrskog).
the external examiner erkki koskenniemi professor of abo university, finland, was drastic in his opening when he said that "if gunnar samuelsson is right, then all lexica will need revision on this point.
I'll just repost this from another thread
More evidence of Jesus dying on the cross can be found from the church fathers.
St. Irenaeus and St Justin Martyr {both considered as Christian leaders by WTS-Should you believe in the Trinity pg7}, both confirm that Jesus did not die on a torture stake.
Irenaeus said 'The very form of the cross, too, has 5 extremities, 2 in length, 2 in breadth, and 1 in the middle, on which [last] the personrests who is fixed by the nails' Against Heresies 2:4:24
Justin Martyr explains that Moses outstretched hands were actually a prefigurment of Christ on the cross and continues on cross construction 'For one beam is placed upright....and the other beam is fitted on to it' . Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 90, 91
The evidence of a cross is there to see.
respectfully,
dc
"jesus did not die on the cross" .
a new doctoral dissertation in theology from gothenburg university claims that the bible has been misinterpreted when it comes to how jesus died.
gunnar samuelsson who wrote the dissertation has studied the original texts and sees no explicit references to crucifiction.
More evidence of Jesus dying on the cross can be found from the church fathers.
St. Irenaeus and St Justin Martyr {both considered as Christian leaders by WTS-Should you believe in the Trinity pg7}, both confirm that Jesus did not die on a torture stake.
Irenaeus said 'The very form of the cross, too, has 5 extremities, 2 in length, 2 in breadth, and 1 in the middle, on which [last] the personrests who is fixed by the nails' Against Heresies 2:4:24
Justin Martyr explains that Moses outstretched hands were actually a prefigurment of Christ on the cross and continues on cross construction 'For one beam is placed upright....and the other beam is fitted on to it' . Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 90, 91
The evidence of a cross is there to see.
respectfully,
dc