Posts by TTWSYF

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For God/Truth Seekers Only!

jw
friends

for the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.

the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.

thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).

TTWSYF

Half banana16 hours ago

TTWSF, The Bible is an old collection of texts. First collated in the fourth century CE and therefore it might be said to be “historical” in its appearance in time. This does not make it historical in the sense that it is a ”history”, far from it! It is a collection of texts much doctored and edited to suit the propaganda of the users of the books even before their inclusion into the Bible by the Catholic Church. The source documents and stories for the Bible are mainly pagan and do not qualify to make a historian’s account of what is a proper historical record. This is because they are derivative and are not first-hand records by reliable witnesses.

Again, I respectfully disagree.

The 4th century confirmation of the books of the bible simply confirmed most of the books that were confirmed in the 1st and 2nd century. There is a copy of the gospel of John [fragments of a copy anyway] that dates with in 40 years of John's death. Also there were guidelines that were followed while compiling the bible. One was that the book had to be ancient. It had to be something that could be traced back historically. That is why books like the gospel of Mary or the gospel of Peter, gospel of Judas, etc. These books were not old enough to be considered.

Just saying.........that I believe the bible is the word of God

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For God/Truth Seekers Only!

by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

jw
friends

for the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.

the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.

thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).

TTWSYF

cofty18 hours ago

TTWSYF - The evidence that we descended from a common ancestor of every other living thing is in every cell in your body. We even have Neanderthal DNA.

The first video in the OP is posited on a literal interpretation of Adam and Eve.

Cofty- we share common dna with sharks, frogs and snakes as well as most other prehistoric lifeforms. That does not mean that we were not created as we are. Do we evolve? I think so. We are a people who are growing larger and living longer. Are we directly evolved from neaderthals? There is no evidence to support that theory. It IS a theory. just saying.

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For God/Truth Seekers Only!

by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

jw
friends

for the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.

the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.

thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).

TTWSYF

Half banana29 minutes ago

Nicola I feel so sad that you wasted so much time like many of us did as a JW... and then go on to waste your time in another similar unprovable delusion.

Where is the evidence that Jesus ever existed? How could he be the second Adam when Adam never lived? It's a story not a historical truth...it's a fantasy.

I disagree [respectfully]. With some top of my head proofs.

1st- There's the bible. it is an ancient historical book, The fact that [literally] billions of people consider it the 'word of God' does not erase or even decrease it's historical nature.

2nd- Jesus was put to death in a very brutal and pubic way some 2000 years ago. He was a man who claimed to be God and his followers claimed that he was God and as a result many thousands have [and do] die on that belief. I would have to think that when you are being tortured, you would quickly let go of any myths. Not THESE Christians. How would anyone explain such a thing?

Adam never existed. How does anyone really know? What I do know is that there is no link [genetically,] with modern man to any of the known 'cavemen'. By cavemen I mean a progression of advancements and or physical/mental improvements that DO have genetic links of progression through the eons. Hence, pigmies to cromagnum to neaderthal , etc etc can be genetically linked through fossils and skeletal remains, there is no such link to our modern species that has been discovered [or admitted to anyway]. This is my understanding of it anyway.

Adam being the 1st man with a soul according to Genesis could in fact be a literal revelation. And as far as time goes, who knows how long a day is in the life if God?

Just saying.......that I believe the bible is the word of God

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Jehovah's Witnesses ... Proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879

by jwleaks in

the first edition of the watchtower magazine, july 1879, made the following comment on page 5 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

exactly 136 years later the latest edition of the watchtower magazine, july 2015, (paragraph 3) made the following comment on page 15 regarding how "soon" the end of this system will come:.

jehovah's witnesses ... proclaimers of "soon, very soon" since 1879.. .

TTWSYF

fulltimestudent9 hours ago

But isn't that the same deception that was used in early Christianity?

Yes, the cult of Jesus said no more feeding the poor or widows or orphans or any of that. Just wait on Jesus to return for the 144k

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Active JW's, can you defend "THE TRUTH?"

by DATA-DOG in

as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.

this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.

TTWSYF

Esse quam videri13 hours ago

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OUTLAW28 minutes ago

As of yet, no member of the Jehovah's Witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.

As of yet, no member of the Jehovah's witnesses can even know their ever changing unique beliefs.

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JW Personality used as an excuse....

by Anon_SA1 in

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friends

i had a discussion with a current jw member of +- 30 years, we got chatting about how you can be sure your faith is right and what checks can be done.

i then suggested looking at ex members view points and literature.

her response was her "i am not someone who takes initiative to look online at stuff, i doesn't feel my personality needs me look at outside view points" in summary she was saying her personality type is not interested in looking at other views.

TTWSYF

I agree with Oubliette. There's no such thing as a JW personality.

Now a JW mindset...that's different. There is definitely a JW mindset that shuts down instinctive reasoning and thinking. Or maybe is a JW non-mindset might be more accurate.

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Thinking of Becoming One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by The Searcher in

if you become one of jehovah's witnesses, here are five points which will not be driven home to you until after you have been baptized as "one of jw's":.

1) you will be required to commit as much of your time and financial resources as you are able - to further the aims & acquisitions of the billion dollar corporation known as the wtbts/ccojw - namely, to recruit new members and to increase their worldwide real estate empire.. 2) you will be required to terminate "worldly" association with former friends.. 3) you will be "expected" to attend each and every meeting, assembly, convention, and kh televised broadcasts which are arranged by the self-proclaimed "governing body" (g.b.

) in brooklyn, n.y.. 4) you will be required to blindly accept any decisions/directions issuing forth from the g.b., even if you disagree with it.

TTWSYF

You make it sound like a bad thing

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Questions about Non JWs attending a JW baptism

by TTWSYF in

i attended my brother and sister in laws' baptism at a kingdom hall a number of years ago.

i was [am] not a jw so when i arrived i was bombarded with attention from the flock to which i politely stated that i was there to see my brother and his wife.

it seemed like the distraction was intentional.

TTWSYF

rebel82 days ago

I find it a little unusual for a non-jw to know the baptism includes pledging allegiance to the borganization. How did you come to know that?

I came to this knowledge here at this site on another thread about baptisms here and people wrote about how they were NOT baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.

Instead baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and God's spirit directed organization.

It is nothing less than amazing to me that people who claim to be bible readers and believers ever didn't wake up while reading what the bible REALLY says about so many of the WTS beliefs.

A controlling cult to say the least....just saying

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PSALMS 83: 18 What is the name of God ?

by william draper in

so many of us have been taught that the name of god is jehovah , if like me many have come to really appreciate god's name .. .

more accurately we , at least many or most love the name of jehovah , or more accurately should i say this pronunciation .

does god care what we call him , of course he does , he had his name written in the bible as yhwh ( best i can do on this computer ) , more than 6000 times .

TTWSYF

Jesus said that no one knows the name of the father except the son and anyone whom the son reveals his name to.

The point I am trying to make is that Jesus would not reveal the Father's name to be broadcast to all everywhere. That would make Jesus a liar.

Also worth mentioning that there is only one name where salvation is found. It is a name above all others according to the bible. That name is JESUS

just reading it

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My first "disagreement" with standard JW thinking

by TTATT_Paladin in

about two years after i was baptized, i had this incident.

i looked at it as an isolated incident at the time, but now realize it would have had basically the same result with 99.99% of any jws not members here.. i will keep it short.

i was talking with a person who was raised in the religion.

TTWSYF

In the new system, there will be no more wedding rings. Wedding rings are 100% a pagan tradition not worthy of making the jump to the paradise on earth after God kills everyone else who's not JW.

NO PAGANISM ALLOWED