has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.
perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.
Yes, I too have experienced this behavior from JWs. Lots of confidence and self rightousness when they first engage you on the bible and Jehovah.
When I became educated about the JW faith and would poke holes in their doctrine, the smug arrogance would turn on a dime into meek humility.
hmmm, how well do you think that would go down?.
you didn't say nothing wrong, isiah states that jesus is such things mentioned.
would brothers and sisters look at you with a smile, or would there be gasps of shock as you closed a prayer like that..
You see that Jesus is a mighty god,
not ALMIGHTLY GOD
IS 9;6
i believe it to be a waste of time talking to, reasoning with, jw's if you expect any kind of quick result.. many of us when we first wake up think that 'coz ttatt is blindingly obvious to us, it will soon get through to our jw loved ones.. this simply isn't so for a couple of important reasons.
the first is that, if someone believes something is true, or the truth, to them it really is, without doubt, true.
so whatever you say must be wrong somehow.. the second problem is that jw's simply do not have to use, or pay any attention to facts and logic.
what are some false reasoning's behind some of the wt rules?.
birthdays:.
why is it forbidden as a jw to celebrate birthdays?
Another example of false reasoning is their promotion of the torture stake over a cross. Reasoning is that stratus [sorry for spelling] means only an upright stake in Classical Greek. The false reasoning comes from the fact that the new testament is NOT written in classical Greek. Classical Greek had not been spoken since centuries before the birth of Christ. Koine' Greek is the Greek of the new testament and it COULD mean a stake AND it could mean a stake with a cross beam.
To put it in today's terms, imagine having an English dictionary and translating someone being 'pissed'.
Being 'pissed' in the UK is very different from being pissed in the US.
Are they ignorant or do they think everyone else is? That's my question
Koiné (New Testament) Greek
i love this organization.
i have been involved with the shriner's since i was a child best group of men you could ever meet in your life.
i belong to their counterpart the ladies of the oriental shrine.
I agree that the Shriners do great work and have REAL fruits from their efforts. Keep up the good work! Love em in the parades too!
Wing Commander posted a Question:
Where are the: Hospitals, orphanages, soup kitchens, retirement homes, schools, shelters, and other charitable works that would be the mark of love of Jesus disciples?
Answer:
No where to be found in JW-Land. Some "religion", huh? Followers of Jesus, my ass!!
Anyone know who gave the world hospitals, orphanages, retirement homes, the college system, shelters and who educates more children and gives to more needy than anyone [government or organization]? Bueller, Bueller?
what are some false reasoning's behind some of the wt rules?.
birthdays:.
why is it forbidden as a jw to celebrate birthdays?
Stella asked about the 144k. Another thing that has false reasoning that ONLY 144K go to heaven when the bible specifically states that the number of those in heaven was too great a number to count.
12k from each of the 12 Hebrew tribes are listed as VIRGIN, JEWISH, MALES who follow Jesus where ever he goes.
False reasoning if you ask me or any other person who has read that in the bible.
i asked a couple of them farther up the street by north station if they had ever seen beth sarim - and that they should look it up...for some interesting facts about their history.. .
Throw water on them [on a warm day] and watch them melt.
what are some false reasoning's behind some of the wt rules?.
birthdays:.
why is it forbidden as a jw to celebrate birthdays?
Nevaagian- So many things to list. I totally agree with your conclusion that birthdays and anniversaries are very similar celebrations.
My biggest example of false reasoning is 'lying for the truth' because you are allowed to blatantly lie, yet still call it truth. OMFG! How can anyone still fall for such failed reasoning?
i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
Explain that you want to be baptized in the strictest biblical traditions.
You know that the bible explains how to be baptized according to Jesus's instructions.
That is to be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Not in the name of the father, the son and Gods sole channel or organization.
Of course, in all honesty, it must suck to be you now. You have my prayers
WW1 had nothing to do with the JWs false prophesy. The end of the world dates started in 1873 I thought. Compare that with their whole history and you can see that the JWs would use anything they can to get membership up. And by anything, I mean theocratic warfare. They would [did/do/will] lie and lie and lie.
I am still amazed that anyone would still buy into their beliefs that reason that the bible doesn't mean what it says, it only means what the WTS says.
