i started a thread comparing the septuagint to the masoretic text.it is here:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5665236409384960/comparing-septuagint-masoretic-textfor those who do not know what the septuagint and the masoretic text are, here's an introduction on wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/septuagint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/masoretic_text.
i think that, more than anything else, the fact that the septuagint and the masoretic text are so different, is what made me stop believing in the bible.. and more than anything else, the most striking differences between the septuagint and the masoretic text have to be the genealogies of genesis 5.. the genealogies of genesis 5 are crucial to the jehovah's witnesses, the adventists, and many other religions that place an emphasis on time prophecy.why is that?because they try to make out when the "end of the world" happens based on the 6000 years of human existence, they have to use genesis 5. and, if the numbers in genesis 5 in the bible most people in the western world use are wrong, then the time to creation is wrong, and then the "end of the world date" is wrong.so, what are the differences?the account tells the ages in this format:x person lived for y years.
I think that it is worth mentioning that the Septuagint is a greek translation of the hebrew scriptures and words don't always line up when making translations. These words of Hebrew get translated to English would of course be different than Hebrew to Greek to English.
For example, there are two words for ONE in Hebrew and they have different meanings.
Only one word for ONE in english and greek. Tough to translate that to everyones' satisfaction I would think
i really felt for you sisters i mean i really did.
when you showed up at the sunday meeting and found out the subject of the talk was going to be -and i can't quite remember the exact wording- but something to the effect of marriage and headship, or honoring and obeying your husband, or something like that how many of you wanted to jump right back in your car and head home.
i mean 45 straight minutes of beating down you poor ladies and telling you that you are not worthy of making one decision, taking the lead in anything, don't question the man be obedient and keep quiet.
When I attended my nephews {JW} wedding a while ago, the speaker spoke of submission of the wife to the husband and reiterated that point over and over again, but he never once mentioned how the husband is supposed to love his wife, like Christ loved his church. Christ gave his life for his church and that's what a husband is to do for his wife.
typical WTS twisting of the truth
i am going to start a thread comparing the septuagint to the masoretic text.for those who do not know what the septuagint and the masoretic text are, here's an introduction on wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/septuagint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/masoretic_text.
i think that, more than anything else, the fact that the septuagint and the masoretic text are so different, is what made me stop believing in the bible.. since the new testament writers quoted from the septuagint, not from the masoretic text, one would think that the septuagint should be in all the current bibles, but the case is that most bibles today use the masoretic text as the basis of their old testament.
Interesting topic, thanks ILOVETTATT.
I've never compared the different texts before and think it is interesting to do so.
I remember reading that there are hundreds of ancient copies of the Septuagint and also reading that Jesus used it as well.
if you, knowing ttatt, could go back in time and speak to your former jw self, what would you say to wake yourself up from the wt religion?.
i would speak to my unbaptised publisher self.
at that stage, i believed.
Go buy microsoft, apple, google, facebook, amazon and lots of other stocks would be my advice to my earlier self
somebody in the uk has started a theocratic card business.looks like there is good money in jw businesses.. https://www.bennettcards.co.uk/product-category/47/theocratic-greetings-cards/.
bangalore.
James Mixon I like it. A theocratic warfare card ...lol
hi i was raised in the truth in the uk since my birth in 1970 i went wayward as my family left in 1981 when i was 11 never took a career just wasted my life away now i'm 46 i rejoined when i was 22 rose to be a auxiliary pioneer and ms then it all went wrong my wife diagnosed bipolar disorder i got diagnosed depression a mega implosion occurred now i'm lost what now ?.
Hi Openheart,
I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
That said, I agree that seeing a therapist would be your best option and I am wondering [hoping] that you and your wife are under a doctors care for the depression and bi-polar diagnosis.
God bless
The Truth Will Set You Free
TTWSYF
having watched many jc youtube videos one question that gets asked is "where else would you go?".
in other words if not jehovah's witnesses then what other religion or organisation would you go to?.
it's one that i have trouble answering, what would you say?.
Where else would you go?
Some place where people treat you with dignity from the womb to the tomb because you are made in the image and likeness of God himself.
That does not happen at the kingdom hall.
The WTS has no fruits that I am aware of.
Sorry if that offends the WTS apologist
we all know that the society promotes a culture of reporting on one another to the elders for any breach of wt policy (not actual crimes - just breaking of wt rules).
many here have been "caught" researching facts about the society on sites such as this one.. surely that should raise alarm bells??
only high control cult-like groups operate like that!.
I am always amazed at how easily people can be pressured to check their common sense at the door when engaged in religious beliefs.
I remember reading about a former Mormon who attended BYU [a very legit Mormon University] and incorporated laws of evidence during his studies, but totally disregarded these disciplined guidelines while engaged in his faith.
wt - july 15, 1960 p 443. again we can stay awake by our service and financial contributions to the watch tower society.
jehovah has done so much for us through this agency.
the least we can do to show our responding love and appreciation is to contribute our finances and time toward expanding the global preaching work.
Didn't AWAKE or the WATCHTOWER state that the 20th century would be the last for certain [even though they stopped giving End Of The World dates]?
this is a video on jw broadcasting to quit your full time career, sell your house and belongings and start a window washing career.
i agree with some of what is presented but not all.
it is good to live within your means as presented in this video.
I remember reading something like this in the late 60s.
Went something like this. I'll quote it, but this is about what it said
"We heard of some brothers selling their homes to be able to preach full time. Certainly this is a great way to mark these final days"
What a disgrace the WTS is. How it cannot stand up to truth, yet calls itself the Truth
