Posts by Nephilim

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Getting an ACTIVE Jehovah's Witness to RETIRE!

by Terry in

hello friend!.

you and i have something in common.

you and i are both faithful jehovah's witnesses.

Nephilim

Being born a witness I went through different stages.

I never got to the point where I fully listened to all the rules. I figured if I made it to 2 different meetings a week I was good. I'd come late, leave early. I'd watch R-rated movies, make out with girls, drink, go to clubs.

In my best year I pioneered but dropped off watchtowers at laundry mats as much as possible.

What's weird is when I really started to make "progress" and attempted to become an MS that's when I really started to do research and things started to bother me. I studied with an Elder one on one who gave me so many funny (ridiculous) stories that I plan on posting them through out the year on this board. It was really studying hard and that made me think about what I had been learning all my life.

Them saying "beware of what information lies out there" made me think, "what kind of knowledge is bad knowledge? we have a book that says knowledge leads to everlasting life, wait a minute?"

Instead of fading I just happened to move away and then stopped going. I read as much knowledge as I could (I'm not just talking about "apostate" info) I mean non-fiction like Terry said. I decided to go back to college. I did this because I went from a feeling like I was smarter than most of the worlds population to feeling like I was completely ignorant. College reversed that although I still feel ignorant but this is good... I'm thirsty for the right kind of knowledge.

With all the knowledge coming in I am still a student to the world is so many different ways.

Leaving, was like hitting the reset button on life.

The society does not give you an honorable way out of their deceptions. I still want to retire, oh believe me. However, I have a chip on my shoulder and there are so many good people being lied to that need to the brightest light possible - REAL KNOWLEDGE. My heart goes out to the disfellowshipped person who is struggling to get back in because they want to make God happy. If only they knew.

I am still trying to find my honorable way out (especially with the witch hunt that has ensued since my departure). There isn't a day that I am not wishing that the organization collapses within itself. The most honorable thing for me would be to be apart of that.

I began writing several different books and maybe one day I'll complete them when I'm capable enough.

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Elder rules regarding young children

by lancelink in

this afternoon i was talking to one of my sons (25 yrs old) and he was telling me stories about how he felt as a young jw.

some of the stories were pretty sad.. it got me thinking ,, the elders were real "micromanagers" when it came to young kids at the meetings.. we were not allowed to bring books outside of the wt, no alphabet, picture, or counting type books .. also food was a big no-no.

when my kids were toddlers, we would bring cheerios, small stuff like that.. the wizards would bellow from the stage, "you should not feed your kids, take care of that before the meetings.. after that time, i still brought food with, we just made several trips down to the basement during the meetings.. out in service on a 95 degree day no shade, kids and parents were advised to keep your tie on.

Nephilim

I got sent to the back room because I brought of bottle of water to the meeting one time. It blew me away. You can't hydrate yourself during the meeting? Even on hot days?

I told them I brought it in because I had kidney stone problems. They said I needed to strip off the labels and drink it in the parking lot.

Pharisees!

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Funniest Talk or Weird Things That Happened In Your Hall.

by Nephilim in

there is always at least 2 or 3 really crazy persons in the kingdom hall.

the kind of person that when they raise their hand the speaker on stage knows he's taking a gamble if he calls on them - yet he can't discriminate.. anyhow, i remember one time a younger brother was doing sound and one of those crazy brothers was about to give his 5 minute talk (i forget what number that was, prior to them just reading scripture).

the crazy brother slipped the young brother doing sound a cd and said "play this when i get on stage".. well, he gets up on stage and all of a sudden hawaiian music starts playing... the man on stage just starts dancing.

Nephilim

Oh! I remember one time there was a talk on "VPL"... visible panty line. Hahahaha

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Funniest Talk or Weird Things That Happened In Your Hall.

by Nephilim in

there is always at least 2 or 3 really crazy persons in the kingdom hall.

the kind of person that when they raise their hand the speaker on stage knows he's taking a gamble if he calls on them - yet he can't discriminate.. anyhow, i remember one time a younger brother was doing sound and one of those crazy brothers was about to give his 5 minute talk (i forget what number that was, prior to them just reading scripture).

the crazy brother slipped the young brother doing sound a cd and said "play this when i get on stage".. well, he gets up on stage and all of a sudden hawaiian music starts playing... the man on stage just starts dancing.

Nephilim

There is always at least 2 or 3 REALLY crazy persons in the Kingdom Hall. The kind of person that when they raise their hand the speaker on stage knows he's taking a gamble if he calls on them - yet he can't discriminate.

Anyhow, I remember one time a younger brother was doing sound and one of those crazy brothers was about to give his 5 minute talk (I forget what number that was, prior to them just reading scripture). The crazy brother slipped the young brother doing sound a CD and said "play this when I get on stage".

Well, he gets up on stage and all of a sudden hawaiian music starts playing... The man on stage just starts dancing. This lasted for 2 minutes until brothers scrambled to turn it off.

There really was no point to the hawaiian music or the dancing. The talk went on about some boring scripture and I think his point was that it's good to "lighten things up" sometimes.

ANOTHER time, a brother (who was a little off but brave) was doing a talk on friendship. He was not a MS or an Elder but on stage he talked about a perfect world where everyone got along. The he talked about how sometimes persons forget to invite people, or purposely leave people out of their "groups". I'll never forget when he dropped the bomb. "I'm TALKING TO YOU ELDERS". "The elders in this congregation are THE most unfriendly, thoughtless, and careless people I have ever met! You should be ashamed of yourselves." This was in the main hall not some back room. So you could see brothers running up to other brothers kneeling over to talk to them prior to the talk finally finishing with the man on stage crying.

The school teacher said, "We're pressed for time, so I will go over your talk with you after the meeting".

When he said "I" he meant 4 other brothers with him.

I know I'm not the only one with crazy comments overheard, or bizzare talks. LET ME HEAR YOUR STORIES!

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would you still like to be a "do not call" ?

by looloo in

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my mother had the jehovahs witnesses round the other day , she said a nice man said "i see you are a do not call,and wondered if you would like the witnesses to start calling on you again " my mum replied "do you know a man called"joe bloggs" he said yes i have heard of him ("joe bloggs is my childs abuser ,an ex dub and "truth"lover" my mum said "well he raped my grandaughter, and do you know that none of his family or his wife who are all in your religion ever apologised to my grandaughter and have supported him instead despite the fact that they know he is a child molester " he said "oh i am so sorry , i am new to the area " i bet he wished the ground could have swallowed him up !.

Nephilim

They call on DNC's? Isn't that the whole point of being a do not call? MADNESS!

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Crises of religion

by wha happened? in

i've often heard that jehovah looks over his people like a parent watching over a child.

why doesn't a parent step in when the children are killing each other?.

Nephilim

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Give them a PYRAMID INCH and they'll take a mile!

by Terry in

in ancient times the easiest way to measure things was to use the most convenient measuring tools available that anybody could afford to own: your own body parts!.

yes, you could use your own foot to measure "feet".. you could use the width of your thumb to measure an inch (call it by whatever name you like.).

what you really needed (necessity) was to invent your own proof!

Nephilim

Terry, I'd really like to take you out and buy you a beer some time and just listen to you. Be my mentor!

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Ancient Hebrew Conception of the Universe

by Nephilim in

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Friend of mine wants out - small problem

by torn in two son in

i'm fourteen.

my closest friend is fourteen.

we've been friends, for fourteen years.

Nephilim

College, college, college! Make sure you get the general ed out of the way first and then try out a few different things you are interested before picking a major. It'll save you a lot of grief.

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prayer before eating

by stillin in

i mentioned to an elder/friend the other day that it occurred to me that there really doesan't seem to be any scriptural precedent or mandate for the tradition of praying before we eat.

i said that jesus blessed the loaves and fishes when he performed that miracle, and he blessed the wine and bread at the last supper, but i couldn't think of any other example of it.

i also suggested that the tradition of praying before eating was probably rooted in giving thanks to the various gods of nature and the perception og god as being involved in the outcome of the harvest, and that, by that way of looking at it, we probably shouldn't pray before eating....silence..

Nephilim

"The food distracts from the meaning of the prayer"

I've never heard that, but it sounds like something they would say if they were criticising themselves.