Yes Brotherdan Hubby and I would have said the very same thing.
RosePetal
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Another question about disfellowshiping
by XPeterX inif the elders decide to disfellowship someone and after being reinstated it is proved that he didn't commit the wrongdoing,what happens then?do the elders apologise to him?.
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RosePetal
I love you OZY and no I haven't been drinking
RosePetal
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Watchtower says GENERATION is NOT the Anointed!
by UnDisfellowshipped incompare these two "generation" quotes from the watchtower -- which one is correct?
how did god's "channel of communication" make an error this big?.
the watchtower, november 1st, 1995, pages 30-31:.
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RosePetal
Re Fingers comment The chariot is constantly on the move but never moves in the wrong direction, because unlike the society it has something the W.society has never had GUESS WHAT? HOLY SPIRIT. New light never contradicts old light if it is truly from the holy spirit only speculation can contradict itself. How many people have been disfellowshipped because of not agreeing with the W.soc changing speculation. And that is all it is speculation in the disguise of spirit direction.
Undisfellowshipped Dueteronomy 18:20-22 ; was one of the scriptures that gave me the courage to keep questioning and not be afraid to keep searching.
RosePetal
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disfellowshipping
by ex-chum intypically is there a limit to the number of disfellowships a person can receive before they're "out"?
i'm specifically referring to my ex, who has a marriage/relationship that results in a babyx2.
she just mentioned that it was harder to get back into good graces this last time.
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It just gets harder to get back I have known of brothers take as long as three years of attending every meeting unless a really good reason for missing to get reinstated. And I know from reading this board and from personal experience over the years in congs. that many times it is just to have family speak to them again.
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Would you believe i had two separate visits in one day?
by wasblind ini guess they are not as organized as they think.
this week alone, i had an invitation stuck in my door to the dc.
in our area, and today two different car groups stop by, i didn't tell either one that i had gotten and invite already.
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Hi wasblind I can't wait for the next visit please tell us how it goes. I think your very brave, witnesses called at my door not long ago but I went blank I shall pick up some tips from you so I don't panic next time. I have recently moved so the witnesses won't know who I am.
Good luck RosePetal.
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Weird Prayer at Last Year's DC - GB Worship
by LostGeneration inat the last dc i will ever attend in 09' some elder was called up to do the morning prayer.
i dont recall him being introduced as a co or anything thats why i say elder.. he starts off slowly and 20 seconds in i realize this is his moment of glory, giving a prayer at the dc and he is going to take his sweet time.
i know the closing prayers are like at least 5 or 10 minutes, but this guy is going to kick off the morning with a long rambling diatribe..... so part way in he gets to the "slave" and he starts naming them off one by one.....ya know thanks for splane, pierce, barr, loesch....so on and so on....til he gets through them all.
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RosePetal
titus I have been to countless assemblies over forty odd years since a child and have had to endure prayers that went on for five, ten, and fifteen minutes. Also had to endure them at the kingdom hall through the years there was always a brother that would go on and on with a prayer that seemed to never end. My father was one of them mealtimes were torture. He loved the sound of his own voice.
Love your post white Dove. RosePetal
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BLONDIE - text needed on stoning children but law disallows needed
by Lady Lee ini saw it the other day somewhere and should have copied it but now i can't find it.. so i'm going to the "i have everything indexed" person .
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RosePetal
My dad may have read that 'Nov 15, 1952 Watchtower' as my parents started a study about that time.
RosePetal
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BLONDIE - text needed on stoning children but law disallows needed
by Lady Lee ini saw it the other day somewhere and should have copied it but now i can't find it.. so i'm going to the "i have everything indexed" person .
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RosePetal
Lady Lee this takes me back to when I was a child and growing up my dad would often threaten that if we were in israelite times he would take us out and stone us for disobedience. He used to say it in a temper I used to shake with fear and I would lay at night thinking about it.
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Ok...I have to share this pic of my granddaughter
by coffee_black inthis is bailey.
she turned 2 in march.
the day before her birthday, my son (her dad) was working with numbers with her and pointed to the number 4. she said "daddy, i have to be 2 before i can be 4!.
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Hi CB thanks for sharing your photo with us you must be so proud. She is a little ray of sunshine and has brightend up my day with her beautiful smiley face.
give her a kiss for mexxxxxxxxxx RosePetal
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Most JW's are Concerned with Position/Appearance - Not Serving God
by flipper inbeing raised in the jehovah's witnesses for 44 years ( exited 7 years ago ) - i observed many different variables that made each witness tick or operate.
but one of the most common variables was witnesses wanting to excel in progressing to positions becoming elders, ministerial servants, or pioneers because then and only then would they be looked at as allegedly " spiritual " or closer to jehovah.
but i learned as years went by that having a " position " in the congregation didn't make a person anymore " spiritual " or closer to god than witnesses who were not in appointed positions.. myself- having been appointed a ministerial servant at the tender baby age of 20 yrs.
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RosePetal
Hi flipper This RosePetals hubby Mr.Bumble don't post very often with wify on here all the time LOL. I enjoyed your observation from your long experience. I can very much relate to your observation of position within the cong. as that seems to be the carrot and the stick. For those that are genuine individuals who work hard to achieve a position often notice this more than the rest.
As a person who has not enjoyed the best of health over the years I felt it a great achievement to attain to ms and felt it was a real opportunity to serve the brothers and make some kind of difference. I was never encouraged or felt pressured to become ms in fact the elders went out their way to block me. Despite ill health my wife and I gave the elders no where to go because of our service record but the nature of the way the org. is structured still made me have doubts reg. my motives was I attaining the pos. to serve or was it just simply to get respect and be socially acceptable in the cong. ?
As anyone who suffers from ill health even if they give 200% and then on another oc. give 50% are looked on as unreliable and a poor excuse for a pub. never mind the widows mite. However I felt I was doing it for God and family and got my head down and tried to champion those who were considered unworthy. That was the kiss of death for me ever becoming an elder. One of the things I have always found difficult and which contributed to my final exit was the ability of elders and ms. and their wives and children to judge their brothers and sisters without any conscience. To conform to this mentality many in positions of oversight can and have fallen into this trap.
At one point I was beginning to dislike myself because it was starting to rub off. I had to pull back and take a long good look at myself, yes I had plenty of faults but they were my faults I didn't like developing attitudes that were org. motivated.
One example was I was on the field service and I worked along with an elder who had just moved in but was not yet re-appointed. The first thing he asked me was what was my position in the cong.? The second question was did I know a certain family I said yes they are a lovely family he is a hard working brother supporting his wife and six children. I feel he has a real love for the brothers and a genuine love for God. His question was motivated by wanting a negative response from me and he didn't get it as he then made the comment 'well others have told me that they don't get to all the meetings they are irregular on field service. And he has a goaty 'sound familiar'?
This is by no means an extreme example but this shows that this attitude is learned not by studying the Bible or asking for Gods spirit but by listening to the mentality of the org. this is just the tip of the ice berg there were far more serious attitudes and issues involved in my final exit which I will eventually post but I will say this the very last elders and ms meeting held at the assembly hall finally hit home that the unloving attitude and bullying tactics of many 'not all' of those in postions was coming from the centre of the org. it was time for me to start doing my homework. I have been baptised for nearly 30 yrs and I thought any problems could be repaired from within, about fifteen years ago I started to doubt that this was the case you are absolutely right the organistion is all about position, authority, and looking good, for many self serving rather than serving brothers.
Mr. Bumble