Yknot thank you for the info I had not read any of that. I couldn't find where he gave names to the Gestapo could you find me a link!
Thank you RosePetal
could it be the holiday weekend and they don't have anything better to do?.
Yknot thank you for the info I had not read any of that. I couldn't find where he gave names to the Gestapo could you find me a link!
Thank you RosePetal
H APPY B IRTDAY
Mrs Jones RosePetal
just setting the record straight.
there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.
he is still alive.
We are sorry to hear that Ray is poorly both Ray and cynthia are in our prayers. We wish him a speedy recovery RosePetal and hubby
a question for all those who managed to do it.
when you realize that it's unrealistic to expect someone in the wt to ever leave, and when you see the damage it does you to keep hoping, and to keep trying to get them out, how do you manage the pain?.
what do you do when you know that someone has spoiled the only life that person will ever have, yet you can't reach to them?.
sorry about spelling mistake [should be accept you as existing] typing too fast.
my friend had sex while he was an unbaptised publisher.now he is baptised but he never told the elders.is he still considered a sinner,not accepted by jehovah?.
betterdaze Well said
RosePetal
a question for all those who managed to do it.
when you realize that it's unrealistic to expect someone in the wt to ever leave, and when you see the damage it does you to keep hoping, and to keep trying to get them out, how do you manage the pain?.
what do you do when you know that someone has spoiled the only life that person will ever have, yet you can't reach to them?.
Doubtfully Yours; you sound highly smug for a DUB who has been one for not more than five minutes, wait till you have been the next thirty years and see if you feel the same. I find most smug people haven't been through enough in their lives. Have not experienced the unloving treatment and harsh judgements from so called elders and brothers and sisters in the congregation. Through the years I have known JWs look down their noses at others going through difficulties, health, financial, emotional problems, judging them harshly, my family included, until something happens to them or they are in the same boat. Many Elders and their families seem to think they are the only ones with genuine problems, unless it's of a serious disciplinary nature , then it's kept quite if possible.
Most JWs work hard for years trying to live up to what is expected of them in the org. only to burn out as it is 'never enough'. I think you should go on freeminds and read some of the stories to wake you up to what's going on, I thought that all my experiences where fairly local and was shocked and taken aback when I read the stories of JWs experiences and realised mine just paled into nothing in comparison and these problems were worldwide. Some of the experiences brought me to tears and that old chestnut 'WE ARE ONLY IMPERFECT' does,nt wash any more. It,s a pity the org doesn,t use that maxim to show mercy not judgement!when interacting with others.
And that's apart from what else I found out about all the cover ups and lies. 'Live and let live' may be a good moto, but once you seek life outside the watchtower, jws won;t except you as exsisting, let alone living!family jws particularly. Lives that have be used and abused would like nothing better than to to 'live and let live' and walk away!forgiveness will be apart of the healing process and most victims will not hold a grudge indefinitely with any individual, however exposing a religion that claims exclusivity but allows or turns a blind eye to injustice, for many becomes a mission to help others trapped in this insidious cult!
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Sorry the first post was supposed to say from my hubby Mr Bumble he read your story.
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Hi Backspacer WELCOME to the board what an uplifting story thank you for sharing.
Love RosePetal
if any body from usa have visited england i would like to know if you liked your stay.
what was your experience?
did you visit while still a dub did you visit any congregations and make any life long friends?
Goldensky thank you for you comments. My mother was from Gibralter as I said she was evacuated to England during the war I have relatives in spain and Gibralter. I was born in London it was very cosmopolitan and multi culteral. The congregations we attended had people from all over the world that had either settled or were visiting for a few years, I am glad you had some lovely experiences in England. I love visiting spain I will be going to Gibralter later this year.
Hi everyone thanks for your comments keep them coming it's so interesting. My mum and dad said that when they served people at the hotel they used to fight over the American visitors because they were so generous warm and friendly of all the hotel guests their tips were the highest. My hubby loves westerns and would love to visit texas and buy a huge cowboy hat and cowboy boots. I would like to visit New York .
Love RosePetal
if any body from usa have visited england i would like to know if you liked your stay.
what was your experience?
did you visit while still a dub did you visit any congregations and make any life long friends?
Bonnie Clyde I have read most of her books over the years she had a hard life herself, thats why her books are so down to earth she drew from her own experiences. Did you read her autobiography? if not I recommend it. [a great read] as for sending messages I am just learning how to send E.Mails I have learnt how to PM when you have figured out the PMs let me know and i will send you my E.Mail address.
Love RosePetal