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  Play the Devil's Advocate

  by nbernat in

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  so my family wants to talk to me about my "doubts" and i know they'll try to defend everything they can in any way that they can so i just want to be prepared and see what they might say (what you would have said as a witness or what you've heard others say) so that i could rebut it on the spot.. if the fds is directed by the holy spirit why have they been wrong before?

  "light gets brighter...." but that's not the case because there would be no reason to go back to old policies after changing them...the light certainly doesn't get brighter, then darker, then brighter, etc.if god is omniscient why did he create satan knowing he would rebel or adam and eve knowing they would sin?

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  God cannot be Omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, as he's claimed. It just does'nt work.
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  Police: Four boys sexually assaulted 8-year-old girl

  by Yizuman in

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  four boys ages 9 to 14 have been charged with sexually assaulting an 8-year old girl, police in phoenix, arizona, said wednesday.. .

  the girl was lured into a vacant storage shed by the suspects, who offered her chewing gum, police said at a news conference.. .

  the girl was restrained while the boys -- ages 9, 10, 13 and 14 -- sexually assaulted her, police said of the july 16 incident.. .

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  Brave Leanne on CBS... she's my hero. You can see her @ 1:20

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhJuUkFclpg
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  Police: Four boys sexually assaulted 8-year-old girl

  by Yizuman in

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  four boys ages 9 to 14 have been charged with sexually assaulting an 8-year old girl, police in phoenix, arizona, said wednesday.. .

  the girl was lured into a vacant storage shed by the suspects, who offered her chewing gum, police said at a news conference.. .

  the girl was restrained while the boys -- ages 9, 10, 13 and 14 -- sexually assaulted her, police said of the july 16 incident.. .

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  Evil world, children molesting children learned from the adults around them /sigh

  Ok, Reniia, I had to step outside for a minute to calm down. See, if you read the article, the parents shunned the girl for reporting it because it "Brought shame on the family."

  Lemme tell you a little story about a girl named Leanne Morley. She has a gag order from the WTS, but I sure as hell don't. See, her parents used to farm her out to their (and the PO's) best buddy Don Serjeant. This bastard who was later convicted of molestation and admitted to molesting 60 children (no thanks to the elders who threatened her, me, and others. with df'ing if we reported it, one of us did anyway, thank god). See, she and another kid lived less than a block from that PO, and being taught all their lives that the elders would keep them safe, they would go to his house, begging him to help them, to save them from this monster. His response? Same one he gave to my family when we reported a DIFFERENT molester. "We keep these things quiet to avoid bringing reproach on Jehovah."

  Fast forward two years later. Don is out, going door to door after serving only 18 mo. or so. Leanne's life is a mess (so was another child who'd been molested by him, ever see what someone's eyes look like when they've tried to hang themself? No whites, pure red from edema). You know what these elders did after the convictions of these molesters? Did they apologize to these kids? No, they continued to harrass them, threaten them w/ being cut off from their families, and even DURING the lawsuits would show up at their doors under the guise of being out in service (no, not random JW's @ the door, three of the elders from their committee's, together) when they knew damn well where they lived, and had been instructed to stay away.

  So, tell me, Ren, where is the difference between these Elders you support, and these Liberian's who's "culture" is to keep it quiet or shun?
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  Did you participate in STREET WITNESSING in your area? What was it like?

  by BonaFide in

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  here in southern california, the witnesses still do streetwork.

  i did it since i was a kid.

  i used to spend two hours every saturday morning from 7 to 9 am walking down the street near my house with my brother or sister.

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  downtown reno in the early a.m in the 80's
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  "Men of JWN: The 2010 Calendar"! Anyone in??

  by Kudra in

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  2. friends

  this was jokingly mentioned in another thread.... i think it would be great to do it- just in time for x-mas gifts!!!.

  what better to give your fave aposta-buddy than a scintillating men of jwn calendar??.

  a women of jwn calendar??.

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  ATJeff, you look like the love child of Matt Damon and Daniel Craig.
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  "Men of JWN: The 2010 Calendar"! Anyone in??

  by Kudra in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was jokingly mentioned in another thread.... i think it would be great to do it- just in time for x-mas gifts!!!.

  what better to give your fave aposta-buddy than a scintillating men of jwn calendar??.

  a women of jwn calendar??.

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  I'm in
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  Its about the enablers, not the abuse It's about the coverups not the crime

  by avishai in

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  2. child-abuse

  this was a phrase spoken by a woman on abc news tonight, re: the catholic sex abuse scandal.

  i love this phrase, especially when applied to the jw's and their spokesmen's regular denials that they had anything to do with the abuse.

  no, they did'nt order their members to molest children.

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  Operative word, corporation. The gag orders, etc., more ass-covering moves.
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  Every Once in a While Everyone needs a break

  by mrsjones5 in

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  2. friends

  and i think it's time for me to take another.. and no i'm not stating this to get attention, i get enough at home (for a sick man hubby sure has been frisky lately .

  so, i may be here a while longer or i might just go into lurk mode or i might just say f**k it and go.

  haven't decided yet.. josie.

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  Love ya Jonesy! Your hubby is a lucky man!
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  Its about the enablers, not the abuse It's about the coverups not the crime

  by avishai in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this was a phrase spoken by a woman on abc news tonight, re: the catholic sex abuse scandal.

  i love this phrase, especially when applied to the jw's and their spokesmen's regular denials that they had anything to do with the abuse.

  no, they did'nt order their members to molest children.

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  BTT for all the moral equivocating of reniia and her ilk.
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  Anyone listening to the confrence call?

  by foolsparadise in

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  this guy got completely railroaded.

  another person earns his freedom!

  !.

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  Who teaches hate?

  “The obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates. Our attitude toward apostates should be that of David, who declared:“Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you…” Watchtower 1992 July 15 pp.12-13 Christ Hated Lawlessness—Do You?
  
  “Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the

  Bible

  , but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance." Watchtower 1993 October 1 p.19
  
  “Haters of God and his people are to be hated, but this does not mean that we will take any opportunity of bringing physical hurt to them in a spirit of malice or spite, for both malice and spite belong to the Devil, whereas pure hatred does not. We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme and active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest. Surely any haters of God are not fit to live on his beautiful earth. The earth will be rid of the wicked and we shall not need to lift a finger to cause physical harm to come to them, for God will attend to that, but we must have a proper perspective of these enemies. His name signifies recompense to the enemies. Watchtower 1952 October 1 p.599

  Watchtower Study, June 7, 2009
  
  Paragraph 15: Satan was the first creature to turn apostate. Modern-day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the Devil. Their mind may be poisoned by a critical attitude toward individuals in the congregations, Christian elders, or the Governing Body.
  
  Some apostates oppose the use of the divine name, Jehovah. They are not interested in learning about Jehovah or in serving him. Like their father, Satan, apostates target people of integrity.(John 8:44)

  Great stuff.