Seriously, you guys need to keep focused.
Seriously, we don't "need" to do a goddamn thing. Who died and made you god? Maybe you should have stayed a JW.
i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .
Seriously, you guys need to keep focused.
Seriously, we don't "need" to do a goddamn thing. Who died and made you god? Maybe you should have stayed a JW.
came across this quote from charles bukowskis tales of ordinary madness:.
the whole lsd, stp, marijuana, heroin, hashish, prescription cough medicine crowd suffers from the "watchtower" itch: you gotta be with us, man, or you're out, you're dead.
this pitch is a continual and seeming must with those who use the stuff.
UR doin it wrong
our area is hit hard by this recession.
unemployment is out the roof - close to 18%.. my wife has been trying to find work for over a year.
she has done so very diligently.
marked for later
i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .
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i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .
What do you know "without googling" about the reputed mechanisms for evolution?
I see people take positions all day long and I rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.
I read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when I ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, I am often met with silence.
GB, I like you, I like your posts, but this one is phrased like a true blue arrogant JW.
Intelligence is'nt defined by being a storehouse of information.
My point is that all of us are prone to oversimplify and categorize and bang our ever-so-wise gavels and shout "Guilty as charged!" at the first hint of impropriety in this area. Actually, to thier credit, the WT Society seems to be doing this these days, in the "big picture," regardless of what some posters here seem to think. Sure, there are still ongoing complaints, no doubt most of them valid. But there are nut jobs who would like nothing better than to cause trouble for somebody they don't like (surprised that there might be a nut job in a congregation of JW'S?) and they just hint to some ignorant elder that somebody molested a child!
Actually, I think most of us are over careful in this area. Because an innocent accusation waters down any credibility we have towards the actually guilty. Does'nt really matter, though, because even if someone was df'd for molestation, they would'nt warn the parents anyway, soooo...
no, I do not suggest that the two-witness deal is the decisive factor for elders. It seems that the mere SUGGESTION of two VICTIMS would warrant serious inquiry, and notification of proper authorities.
That sounds good and all, but that's not the way they've operated. In my bro's case, and several others that this monster messed w/, the elders already knew. It's 2 witnesses to each event, or nothing. They insinuated that they'd "taken care of it" and reported. Nope, what they meant was they reproved him and told him to pray more. So he went on to molest dozens more children.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiyggwt6no.
BTW, Mrs. Jones, your taste in music is amazing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiyggwt6no.
Learning the slide intro from this one right now.