they are allowed to associate for necessary family business which would include keeping in contact with grandkids.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Yeah, someone wants to shun me, they don't get to talk to my kids, period. Extremely unhealthy example for little ones "Gee, I'll let Grandma and Grandpa shit all over me because they say I'm "bad" Meanwhile, I'll let them submarine me and tell my kids that I, and my kids by extension, will die a horrible death if I don't believe EXACTLY LIKE THEM!" Yeah, no effin way, over my dead body.