top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
Lucid Sky,
God is God agreed? 1/3'rd there already
The Holy Spirit is God Whether impersonal force or not still a part of God Right 2/3rds there.
Divinity of Christ, Is Jesus God? That's the big question, John 1:1 was supposed to explain that as clearly as possible, but we as humans Jacked that up with changing languages and interpretations etc. and this thread is what we have left. Study hard and look at all of the appropriate scriptures and make your decision.
Sean
top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
Chevy,
Jesus came to Earth for us for a purpose. To give us the new covenant. It was necessary to use some intrigue to get this done. So say Jesus stands in the Temple after the whole money changers Fiasco and says. I am Yahweh I am Jehovah I am here to bring you a new cov.. Aaaaakkk" as he is dragged down and stoned by the onlookers. He had to be careful how he spoke so as to not be killed before the proper time.
Many times he spoke in parables to make it easier for us to understand. Keep in mind Humans are continually refered to as sheep. Is it because we are warm and cute and fuzzy? Nope, Its because sheep are the stupidest animal on the planet. They continually need guided and helped or they can't survive.
I wish he had simply Came down with a roar and in his Glory and showed us exactly what is what, but unfortunately that would take away most of free will and kinda ruin us as his entertainment.
Sean the sheep Baaaaahhh
(keep in mind these are my opinions and as such are not the official views of The Catholic Church, Seasame street, or the local Breadmakers Union local 243)
top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
151,
Similar, but not exactly the same.
top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
Okay I'm back,
Basically the Trinity
The Trinity is a explaination by Men to try to explain the nature of God
The Trinity is not 3 gods. It is ONE God in 3 persons.
ie. We have "seen" God in three ways God the Father, Jesus the son, and The Holy spirit.
They are one, Jesus is a part of god the Holy Spirit is a part of God. They are all eternal. Because they are the same none can be older than another as they are one. Is your hand older than your leg??
The word Trinity came about because of men arguing about the nature of God. It is more of a descriptive word than a "god".
There it is the most basic of descriptions.
One God in three Persons.
top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
I don't have the time to read all 26 pages but I was wondering. Has anyone explained what the trinity is. I have seen some of the cartoons posted and they mislead the reader as to what the belief of the Trinity is. They protray the Trinity as three gods etc. and that is certainly not what the belief of the Trinity is. Seeing as I'm typing I'll give a quick run down of the belief of the Trinity.
Oops afk brb
top reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
IW said
Why did you sign off as "Herk"?
Ha ha ha he he ho ha I'm truly LOL.
Your so busted. multiple log ons what a way to garner support.
Sean
how would you try to introduce crisis of conscience to your family.
it is so well known as oppostate and immediately brushed off.
i would like to get my wife and her family to read coc.
Okay, a little more bckground. Wife is going inactive currently, MiL and SiL ae inactive 10 years, but looking for spirituality elsewhere. Mil and Sil are having problems because of what they were taught being raised as dubs. I have told them they need to research the Wt so they can realize they need to look at all things and find what is true.
But I kinda screwed up and likened it to bigotry and white supremecy, in that if you are taught one thing all of your life and that is all you know then you will believe it. It's a fairly accurate paralell but stupid in that you kinda call them bigots. If you have the chance to say that DONT hehehe it will piss them off.
never the less, they are all on the way out hopefully. And I'm trying to help them. They are not Closed Minded but they still shy away at those appostate books.
Sean
how would you try to introduce crisis of conscience to your family.
it is so well known as oppostate and immediately brushed off.
i would like to get my wife and her family to read coc.
How would you try to introduce Crisis of Conscience to your Family. It is so well known as oppostate and immediately brushed off. I would like to get my wife and her family to read COC. They are all searching for something different and I think xdubs really need to understand that many or most of the things the FDS has told them are not of God.
I think that reading COC and In Search of Christian Freedom would do wonders for them so they could be alittle more open minded about other viewpoints.
Any Ideas about how to broach the subject and word it??
Love in Christ,
Sean
reading one of the other threads got me thinking.
what is the root of anti-catholic sentiment.
i was raised a catholic, still catholic, and have never heard a good reason why some people dislike catholicism.
JR,
Hi and Peace, no really Peace to you. I realize that this is a important subject to you, but I would learn and understand alot more from you if you were more civil and understanding that I have not studied Grace in the same way that you have. Ours is a religion of faith as your is and Grace is not The cornerstone of our religion, The Love of Christ is. I'm not saying you are wrong just that you have a different focus in your faith.
Things like the following detract from your message and add too much emotion and personal feeling into the conversation.
"JG/Sean with a lack of understanding biblical conversion and grace writes:"
"JG/Sean who at this point mis-represent the biblical and reformed doctrines as well as his own churches position bares false witness when he writes"
Let me add this as to why i'm not able to spend a large amount of time pulling references and discussing this. Here is the end of my last post.
Quote: I wish I had time to expand and pull bible references but I'm working clear until I leave on my hunting trip Wed night. But I will drag this up and try to comment next mon. when I get back.
Sean
So I'll print out your last two posts and take them with me and see what I can do while I'm on my stand.
So what I'll do is quickly respond to V and your last two posts.
Thank you for the answer but could you clarify, Can a saved person filled with grace sin.
Can a saved person fall from favor of our Lord.
If this can happen and they die, then what.
How is your confession, one one one w/ God
with a minister for guidance or what?
My view of Grace is if you are saved you will commit acts of kindness and good works.
Thereby having grace and works.
Why be against Grace and Works?
You Feel that I as a Catholic believe that I have to do Works in addition to the Grace that is poured out on us by God.
I say if you do not offend God and truly BELIEVE then you are all cool with God.
Love in Christ to all.
Sean
reading one of the other threads got me thinking.
what is the root of anti-catholic sentiment.
i was raised a catholic, still catholic, and have never heard a good reason why some people dislike catholicism.
Clash/JR
This is what I don't understand about Faith only/ Grace only. I believe in Grace. The problem with grace only is and feel free to correct me, you could under a grace only system never get out of favor of God. Theoretically I could be the biggest scumbag on earth lie cheat steal and still be saved if I BELIEVE. Common sense tells me if Moses was able to fall from favor, and he obviously Believed, why can't normal people also.
The thing that Peeves me is that people act as if we don't believe in grace. The same thing goes for Sola-scriptura and thinking we don't believe in the scripture. No we believe in Grace PLUS works and Solascriptura Plus the traditions of the apostles.
GracePlus
ScripturePlus
So we are hated for believeing the same thing you do and MORE.
Never did "get" that.
Sean
Mary,
Sorry hun but this is wrong. "When you are studying to become a priest, you don't even read the bible, it's all the Catacysm book - that's it."
I wish I had time to expand and pull bible references but I'm working clear until I leave on my hunting trip Wed night. But I will drag this up and try to comment next mon. when I get back.
Sean
