jehovah's witnesses and tolerance, let's just think about that for a minute.
as far as jws are concerned the ideal society will exist when there are no more;.
atheists.
That's why I say that while talking to a JW can be a very pleasant experience, they're very nice to talk to, but to get to the core of what they believe is going to happen to those "of the world," is to find something truly horrific.
JW beliefs and Human Rights can't coexist, they're simply incompatible. JWs can be nice to the face of a Homosexual, all the while tacitly believing they'll pay for their sin. It's insane to know that I once thought this way.
elder: "i'm not sure i know what you mean by 'diversity.'.
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lol Awesome interview! That's the deal, JWs have their beliefs but no real way of rationalizing them when pressed for hard answers. Present them with logical fallacies within their beliefs and they have to come up with bull$#!@ on the spot in retort or simply say, "I'll have to do research," and come back to you with the bull$#!@ they find or not return at all when they can't find an answer from their precious GB.
You see the same in Islam, believers will profess Islam as a religion of peace, but when pressed and specifically questioned on whether or not they would personally be in support of Sharia Law or a Caliphate being established, along with the stoning of adulterers, death penalty for homosexuals, genital mutilation of young girls, etc... they struggle to answer and then just try to dodge.
The majority of religions have no correlation with basic Human Rights, they're incompatible.
I would say the same for JWs, they profess to be peaceful and while individually you can have very pleasant conversations with them, as I'm sure you could with a majority of those of Islamic belief, however, their claims of being 'religions of peace,' are really misleading statements due to what they believe will happen to those not of their faith.
What I gather is, they're religions of peace only IF you're of the ones believing them, IF all the people believed as you do there'd be peace, thus my religion is one of peace. If you're of another faith, if you're a non-believer, or if you break the rules I adhere to, my religion will not be very peaceful for YOU. The only difference is the most extreme carry this judgement out themselves while JWs are just waiting on Jehovah to carry out his wrath and "justice."
It's the whole in/out group mentality for JWs as well as many other religions, their worldviews are completely skewed by their beliefs.
there are striking similarities between watchtower and north koria.
check this out.
http://ameblo.jp/nakanokatsuhiro/entry-12047707779.html.
so...i totally stopped going to meetings two years ago.
since then, i have gotten married and moved into my husband's home.
his father and mother also live there.
I was an MS for a about a year, pioneered for about half of that time, and through it all kept my actual preaching to a minimum. Most of my pioneer hours were informal at work pretty casual conversation, early morning where you basically just hand out magazines, and even when I did go D2D I kept it very brief, any returns were more or less regular conversation, never pushed for studies. I only did what I had to do to get the hours and keep my position. I became very apathetic towards preaching.
As time went on, I more and more realized how little my beliefs were really playing a part in my life so why would I want to preach to someone else to bring them into this religion?
this is a great podcast with sam harris and the granddaughter of the founder of the westboro baptist church.
she left the church.
i could not believe how similar her experiences were to jws.
Love this interview, glad to see other people coming across it and seeing the many parallels between Westboro and JWs.
Posted this link last night in the JW Doctrine forum. Definitely need to keep spreading it around, anyone who is on the fence about following their religion/cult owes it to themselves to give this interview a listen.
my husband, as far as i know, has never seen any of the gb.
with all the videos on at the convention showing the gb speaking, is there anything that would make him think wth!.
he thinks the gb are special, appointed by jehovah, that god speaks to them and imparts special knowledge.
Hopefully the Drama on Friday "woke" some people up.
The two women who questioned the validity of Jesus' healing miracles were actually extremely reasonable. They doubted what they hadn't seen with their own eyes and asked very good questions. "How do we know she was really sick?"... "How do we know the little girl was really dead?" and in response the 'believer,' only said, as if this was any kind of credible claim, "They sounded convincing." taking it on 'faith.'
The GB with that Drama basically threw it in the R&F's face, many just bought it hook, line, and sinker almost as if we were literally watching Jesus firsthand, but I'm sure a few went, "Hey, wait a minute... How do we KNOW those things actually happened?!"
The stupidity is that anyone who voices that question will be looked at by believing R&F as, "Just have faith," as if that's somehow a great thing to do, don't think, don't question, just blindly believe what a 2,000+ year old book has to say.
just wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?
or is it even worth the trouble.
I have no clue what to say to a JW to make them actually question the GB, they're mostly blind to everything.
But for myself, I hope this child abuse scandal blows up in the GBs face and comes under more public/news scrutiny, because I know I've heard plenty of JWs say, "How do people stay Catholic when so many of their preachers abused children??" Let's see if they ask the same of their own belief in the GB should this scandal become a widely publicized/talked about issue on major news networks like happened in Catholicism.
sam harris did this interview with megan phelps formerly of the infamous westboro baptist church, and i got to say holy $#!
@ the parallels to jw indoctrination/beliefs is actually pretty astonishing.. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/leaving-the-church.
highly recommend everyone listen to this interview, especially if you're on the fence about continuing as a jw or in any other overbearing cult/religion..
Sam Harris did this interview with Megan Phelps formerly of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church, and I got to say Holy $#!@ the parallels to JW indoctrination/beliefs is actually pretty astonishing.
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/leaving-the-church
Highly recommend everyone listen to this interview, especially if you're on the fence about continuing as a JW or in any other overbearing cult/religion.
he has inadvertently moved the timing of the beginning of the last days to the future.
this kind of scriptural error is the direct result of superficial bible reading.
according to luke 21, first comes the persecution then the wars, earthquakes, food shortages, fearful sights etc.
All JWs just accept what is said to them by the GB, doesn't matter what it is, they'll buy it wholesale. Jdub R&F are EXACTLY like the Christendom they profess to abhor, they just like to "have their ears tickled." No thinking required, only blindly follow the leaders.
according to leading astronomers the probe philae that landed on the comet 67p last november may have discovered microbial life..... sadly neither the probe nor the orbiter rosetta are equipped to test directly but the evidence is interesting.
these are not easily explained in terms of prebiotic chemistry.
the dark material is being constantly replenished as it is boiled off by heat from the sun.
