from an earlier topic-.
"moshe, ready for another biblical smackdown?.
christians.
OUTLAW Buddy: My hunch is that Titus is some kind of Islamic fusion with either JWdom or a disenchanted "Born Again".
The P.M he refers to in Croat is probably the equivalent of Kusamak which is probably the filthiest expression a person could use in Arabic.
Don't lower yourself, friend.
Podo
according to what appeared in written newspapers and that we can add up, the real number of people who assisted the summer district assemblies in the province of quebec, canada is : 13 500.. .
assembly at quebec city: 7000.
1st assembly at sherbrooke : 3500.
I used to be the back up head counter at the Branch Office in the days when the Elders were first urged to encourage the publishers to submit their monthly reports, if only retrospectively.
So, if two pioneers spent 6 months on some remote island.. twelve field service reports would be submitted. A peak of 2 and a yearly average of 1.. but no active JW's on the island at the end of the year. The headcount then returned to the congregation of origin.
The numbers therefore reflect those who are Active in their preaching at any given time. The "Average" number of publishers is probable the nearest accurate "Activity" figure you will get at any one time. The "Peak" can be a real smoke screen as to the true picture.
Remember, the WT is only a Printing and Publishing corporation.. supposedly representing the material/legal arm of Jehovah's Witnesses.. it is only interested in one thing, production volumes and statistics. It's a kind of DowJones Index, with (at last check) 24th rating in New York City.
WT needs Factory Fodder, like the army needs G.I's and Squaddies (UK) for cannon fodder. No love lost at the top.. once you're spent, you're disposable. Sad, really.
Podo
from an earlier topic-.
"moshe, ready for another biblical smackdown?.
christians.
Null points from my comments either Pistoff... maybe Bane is beginning to put his "Thinking" head on. Rust does tend to grind a bit after years of indoctrination.
A little "W(atchtower)D(emolition) 40" should do the trick.
Podo
from an earlier topic-.
"moshe, ready for another biblical smackdown?.
christians.
Bane: I think you are confused with laws and commands. Laws are made with guiding principles. Blood, Medicine and the LAW of God. Where is the Command to abstain, when we are clearly dealing with a law?.. that can be reviewed..
Jesus, instructed his disciples to Eat his Flesh and Drink his blood. They were horrified. Even if only symbolically, David remember, sent a man out to fetch some water whilst they were in battle. He poured it to the earth knowing that water represented the man's blood.. he could not drink it, knowing how brave the man had been.
When an animal is killed the life blood is returned to God. It is not to be used in diet.. according to the law. TAKING a life, slaughtering, whether animal or human.. requires that the blood is given back to the good God that gave life. That is the underlying principle.
It follows that Jesus DONATED, GAVE his life WILLINGLY as a gift for us.
If it was good enough for Jesus.. why cannot we accept the gift of any Organ, including blood if our conscience will permit it? If it is GIVEN, it is the fee will of the Donor.. it is sharing. The most honourable principle is LIFE, the act of giving is surely superior. It is the Way of Love.
If organs are taken without the permission of the owner, if life is taken without the authority of "God" then it is surely wrong.
Perhaps medical use of blood or transplatation should be entirely a matter of a Christian trained conscience. Surely, that is a Godly respect for life.. and for blood.
Podo
a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.
words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.
strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..
Stet to that llbh... best wishes
toward the end of my meeting attendance, i started to pay attention (as best as i could) to what was being said and that was truly the final nail in the coffin.. when you actually decipher the "reasoning" of the "truth", you can't help but see things clearly..
Minimus: Did You Ever Really Listen At The Meetings?
Sure did. That's why I am here. [cringe: waits for first egg to hit]
Podo
a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.
words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.
strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..
To Blues: I am going to be controversial here in the hope of keeping the passion behind this thread alive... The problem with the WTBTS is that it is steeped in ANACHRONISTIC theology (everyone including me head for the Greek lexicon and English dictionary)
In simplistic terms, it takes the decision making of the era, out of context, to justify its stance.
It does it with the "two witness rule", Besty... It does it with the LAWS on Blood.
By its own words, it falls short of reasoning, eg: Blood, Medicine and the LAW of God...
There are COMMANDS, there are LAWS and there are PRINCIPLES.
Freddo, friend (?) do you not agree that Principles affect the Time and Context of Law? Read the Biblical context of the "Two witness" principle, read the Biblical context of "Abstain from Blood" and you will see the PRINICPLE behind the LAW.
None of this is listed in the Scriptures as A COMMAND.
In the case we are discussing, "Blues".. we have a classic example of the disenfranchized, disillusioned and the doubting calling for Justice and reform. If the WTBTS does not want to even receive this wake up call from those who once loved passionately.. then it will loose. It WILL end up labelled as a suburb of "Babylon the Great" and it will continue to wreck the lives of the "faithful" and the children that even David called an "inheritence". Now, Besty, please put your angst aside and start this forum reasoning.
We once, loved the "Truth"... didn't we?
Love to you all. Podo
a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.
words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.
strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..
Freddo.. you are obviously more familiar with local Geography than I am. Since I went quite frequently to Police HQ, attended their Federation dos and stayed over night in the Training Accommodation, I must have imagined that Burnham On Sea is only 15 miles down the road.
All I have imparted is what I know... UK law indeed does not allow double-indemnity. That is why I have not gone beyond local knowledge... am not privvy to the bundle and have directed folks to raise their enquiries with the appropriate sources. Ipso facto, you are correct and have established exactly what I have been saying. Thank you. The law is the law, and until there is some forum to reconsider this (that rests with the Home Secretary at this stage - does it not? Unless you know of any other higher authority in the UK).
Thank you for your back up, and let's hope that all remains calm. Best wishes, Podo
a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.
words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.
strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..
No... Freddo I do not claim to know all about the case. Please read through this relatively short thread and you will appreciate that you have assumed incorrectly. Comments like Aquas' (what can we say that would comfort you, Aqua?) demonstate why such thorough research and heavy judgment (in my eyes).
At the time of the trial I owned a second business, "a pub grub PUB" within walking distance of the CROWN court in Bristol, Freddo. Burnham on Sea and Clevedon are two coastal towns within the catchment area of Bristol City. Those congregations suffered most from the attentions of Mr Porter, and Avon & Somerset / CPS are the Constabulary involved in bringing the action. London, where as far as it is known, Mr Porter has not offended is 130 miles away from the scene of his crimes.
The call for retrial continues amongst some of those most deeply affected. Though the media is silent at present, I doubt that (Mr Porter's sister especially) will let it rest there.
Our "West Country" regional TV and then National TV had the header stories for days.
The best way to file protest and urge review (in this particular case) is to lodge appeal to the prosecutor.. and as one other poster divulged the Home Secretary of the UK cabinet is already involved.
Hope that covers it Freddo. Best wishes.
a predatory jw paedophile micheal porter (uk) who has a 15 year record of abuse including the rape of his own baby but somehow evaded jail now is a member of my old congregation;wimbledon.
words fail me, to think of the years of shunning that these idiots have heaped upon me even by my own family and this piece of shit was seen a this years memorial laughing and joking with the congregation.
strange that this news story slipped passed me when it was broadcast by the british media in 2007..
That's reassuring Jook.. all the best mate.
Let's hope the second hearing will clear up the tensions behind this case and perhaps it will result in a more just sentence in the eyes of those devestated by his vile acts!
