Another strong argument for the seperation of Church and State.
Berengaria
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800 Infant Bodies Found in a Septic Tank at Roman Catholic Children's Home
by cofty in796 infant skeletons have been found discarded in a septic tank at the former mother and baby home run by the catholic church in ireland between 1925 and 1961.. unwed mothers were sent these "magdelene asylums" to be treated like criminals.
their babies - if they survived - were taken from them.
if they did not survive their bodies were thrown into a septic tank and forgotton.
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Why do Christian nations think they can assimilate Muslims into their communities , does Islam attempt to assimilate Christians in their communities ?
by smiddy inislam /muslims today are what christianity was centuries ago , the two beleif systems are like oil and water , not to be mixed .
christians are not tolerated spreading their infectious disease amongst muslims, in islamic countrys , and harsh penalties apply for them doing so in muslim countries , including the death penalty.
stonings , whippings etc.. on the other hand christian nations are very tolerant of muslim extremists who incite hatred and violence on their own territory , and they get a slap on the wrist and say dont do it again .
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Berengaria
I haven't read the entire thread, but it seems that the OP is forgetting one of the most important aspects of this discussion. Government. Theocracies. In the not too distant past we had Christian Theocracies in Europe. Some very ugly shit went down in the name of "God". That is the essential problem today. Frankly if the Religious Right in America were to achieve complete control I have no doubt we would see similar attrocities.
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How *exactly* you and your income are being affected by inequality.
by cognisonance ini found this link really interesting: inequality.is and associated with the excellent robert reich documentary: inequality for all.. .
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Berengaria
If you tax the top earners too much, who is going to open the new businesses to employ people? Read Atlas Shrugged.
Can you show any evidence that this theory holds up in reality?
When you take away people's insentive, things don't get better.
What insentives? Which people?
If capital gains were raised I would invest less of my money. Less money going into investments ( new resturants, drugs, hospitals, stores) not good. Why are people mad when other people work really really hard and are sucessful ? Alot of those people give people jobs.
How and where do you invest your money, and why would you invest less? These lower gains rates are rather new, yet people have always invested when able. Why do you equate a more reasonable capital gains rate to people being "mad"? How is earning off of investments "working really hard"?
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Great Music
by Berengaria init appears that many of the best music threads have been purged.
i can't imagine the formula that would eliminate such wonderousness while preserving "involuntary muscular contractions", but so it is.. the first offering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh2vh8jwyqa.
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That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inleaving the university with my degree!.
exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.
i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!
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Berengaria
Ohhhhh Billy!! Woooooooooooot!!!
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What are your turn offs in a guy or girl?
by Iamallcool inone of them is nose rings/piercings.
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Berengaria
I am particularly turned off by guys who ask silly questions like, "What are your turn offs?".
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Supreme Court ruling- refusing to photo gay wedding is discrimination
by SadElder inaccording to bloomberg news:.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/wedding-photographer-rebuffed-by-top-court-on-same-sex-ceremony.
"the u.s. supreme court turned away an appeal from a new mexico wedding photographer found to have violated a state anti-discrimination law when she refused to take pictures of a commitment ceremony for a same-sex couple.. the photographer, elaine huguenin, argued unsuccessfully that she was being unconstitutionally forced to convey a message conflicting with her religious beliefs.
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Berengaria
That’s the way Adam Smith envisioned a perfect economic model. He was right. But we humans – and our congressmen/women - don’t want the textile industry to go away if we depend on it for food or political power. We don’t want Chrysler to fail if we work for Chrysler or within the supply chain. And so on. The egoist, some of which rail against government controls, etc., seeks assistance from the universalist when they need it (bail me out, subsidize me, build a wall around me, keep those mean Chinese away, increase tariffs, etc.). As expected. The egoist will always think of themselves first and last.
The egoist (businesses) also seeks assistance from the universalist (government) by lobbying for and demanding better roads, schools, airports, utilities, etc. to help its business thrive.
So it comes off as more than a bit hypocritical for a business, a completely egoist enterprise, to think it can serve only who it wishes, especially when it has asked and gotten so much from the government – which has a competing interest of the common good for all – that has helped make their business thrive. And how many of you haters have or have had government backed school and/or home loans, lived in subsidized housing, were on food stamps, welfare, WIC, worker's comp, etc., etc.. To paint with such a broad brush about the mean ole violent government, especially when one has benefited from it so much, is hypocritical.
Those businesses which discriminate against others, even or especially based on their own peronal relgious beliefs, are on very shaky ground when it comes to the U.S. egoist/universalist capitalistic environment and the U.S. Constitution. To try to hide behind religion is a sham, and the courts have consistently upheld the rights of all citizens when they faced such discrimination. Courts in state after state are ruling that discriminating against gays is unconstitutional and numerous anti-gay marriage laws have been overturned (many of these decisions are currently stayed based on appeal).
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Berengaria
Some recent reads that I enjoyed immensely,
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Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?
by Perry insigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
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Berengaria
Hey guys! Two of my favorite people! How are you?
You know the kind of threads that interest me , and there just haven't been many lately. And I've discovered that when I am not on the computer so much, I read a heck of a lot more books!
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Naturalism is Dead - Why Are Believers Stuck in the Past?
by Perry insigmund freud, karl marx and charles darwin are considered the pillars of modern western thought.
they differed in many ways but had one thing in commonthey were reductionists who claimed that all higher realms of existence could be explained by lower natural causes.
they were the pillars of naturalism.. but their ideas were tested during the twentieth century and found wanting.
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Berengaria
Snare&racket, you are correct that this is another cut n paste from Perry, but it was lifted from a site that sells "Intelligently Designed Apparel and Merchandise" http://www.cafepress.com/accessresearch/964771
From the blurb for one specific T. When he pasted he left off the last sentence
but his theory is rapidly eroding as modern biological science reveals amazing complexity and design that cannot possibly be explained by Darwin’s proposed mechanism of random mutations and natural selection. This led Phillip Johnson to summarize the situation one day with the phrase that appears on this shirt: “Freud is dead, Marx is dead, and Darwin is not feeling very well.”
Same old Perry
This one was absolutely fantastic. Read like a novel.