Posts by Berengaria

Liberals are champions for that cause. So, if partial-birth abortion does not horrify them, why should we think they would be upset by the thought of killing babies who survived botched abortions? We already know that Obama wanted to let such babies die without medical treatment, and the Democratic Party chose Obama to represent them, which tells us a lot about their values, or perhaps, I should say, lack of values.

Ignorance.

If you want to talk lack of values and party affiliation, look at the Mariana Islands, and the sweat shops/prostitution/forced abortions...................etc. etc. etc. and the GOP involvement. Oh but hey, it's ok, cuz it's just Capitalism at work.

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Kermit Gosnell, MD.

by Glander in

he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.

where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.

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Berengaria

Passing onerous and capricious regulatory legislation is typical in red states whose transparent goal is to drive abortion providers out altogether.

1 This is called making stuff up.

2. Who decided that PP and current legal abortion laws are interchangeable definitions of the same thing.

3. Who decided that people opposed to abortion don't have a right to work against it

1. Actually this is easily verifiable fact.

2. Please show where anyone has made this claim.

3. Working to overturn laws is one thing. Underhandedly preventing their application is another.

And B, your 1-3 are incompatible. If 1 is true what is the point of 2 and 3?

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Kermit Gosnell, MD.

by Glander in

he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.

where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.

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Berengaria

This is complete and utter B.S. To blame pro-lifers for this is like blaming the Allied forces for the holocaust.

Ooooohhhh ouch. Time to read up on the history of both the Holocaust, and abortion.

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Kermit Gosnell, MD.

by Glander in

he is accused of performing "abortions" after the birth of live babies.

where does planned parenthood stand on this case?.

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Berengaria

Wow, there is a whole lot of misinformation being thrown about here.

Gosnell is one issue, the Planned Parenthood video is quite another. As a matter of fact, anyone who tries to juxtapose the two has been accessing too much right wing media. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Gosnell is a dispicable law breaker. Period. Personal gain appears to have been his only motivation.

The above video of the PP woman is completely out of context. The extremely rare hypothetical highlighted in the video was pure propaganda by the anti-choice crowd. This was a hearing on a FL bill with specific language that PP opposed. There is already a Federal law that protects viable births in the case of "botched abortions". Again a very very rare occurance. For one thing, abortions after 24 weeks are illegal in most states, other than for the health of the mother. Less than 1.5 percent of abortions across the country are during this period.

Here is what PP FL had to say.

http://www.ppaction.org/site/PageServer?pagename=fl_fappa_website_news

April 1, 2013

Statement regarding Planned Parenthood's testimony on HB 1129

"Last week, a panel of Florida state legislators demanded speculation about a vague set of extremely unlikely and highly unusual medical circumstances. Medical guidelines and ethics already compel physicians facing life-threatening circumstances to respond, and Planned Parenthood physicians provide high-quality medical care and adhere to the most rigorous professional standards, including providing emergency care. In the extremely unlikely event that the scenario presented by the panel of legislators should happen, of course Planned Parenthood would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant."

-Barbara Zdravecky, FAPPA Board Chair

April 4, 2013

Planned Parenthood Testimony in Florida House Health & Human Services Comittee

"Thank you Chairman and committee members. My name is Lillian Tamayo and I'm representing the Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates. I'm here today to thank Representative Pigman for listening to our concerns about HB 1129 and addressing them by amending the legislation. With the most recent amendment today we are now able to withdraw our opposition to this bill.

The Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates originally expressed concerns about HB 1129, because some language went beyond health and safety issues.

Following a hearing last week in the House of Representatives Civil Justice Subcommittee, some biased media outlets reported our position inaccurately.

To ensure that there is no confusion about our position – which has been consistent throughout and is rooted in Planned Parenthood’s role as a provider of cancer screenings, STD tests, birth control, and other basic, preventive health care to more than 80,000 people across Florida every year, I want to take this opportunity to restate our position.

As a trusted health care provider, Planned Parenthood strongly condemns any physician who does not follow the law or endangers a woman's or child's health. And while HB 1129 addresses a situation that is extremely unlikely and highly unusual, if the scenario presented by the legislation should happen, of course a Planned Parenthood doctor would provide appropriate care to both the woman and the infant.

Both general medical guidelines and ethics and Planned Parenthood's own policies already compel physicians facing life-threatening circumstances to respond, and Planned Parenthood physicians provide high-quality medical care and adhere to the most rigorous professional standards, including providing emergency care.

I want to be clear that Planned Parenthood works every day to ensure women, men and families can lead healthy lives with access to health care. More than 90 percent of what we do is preventive care such as life saving cancer screenings and STD testing and treatment.

Hundreds of thousands of people across Florida know what we stand for first-hand – they’re the women who have children today because Planned Parenthood helped them control their Endometriosis and preserve their fertility, the young men who are able to have jobs and families because we helped detect their HIV early, and the women who will live to see their grandchildren because we caught their breast cancer.

We again want to thank the bill sponsor for addressing our concerns and therefore we can withdraw our opposition.

Thank you."

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WTFudge !!! Is going on in India !!!!

by *lost* in

another child raped, left for dead ( gory so not repeating details ).

what on earth is going on.

sick, sick people living on this planet.

Berengaria

Where are you from "lost"?

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Why did you stop believing in God?

by The Quiet One in

Berengaria

OTWO:

The short story:

I researched the lies of Watchtower until I was satisfied that they did not have the truth.
I didn't stop there. I researched the Bible because of my waking up about the Watchtower.
I researched a little bit of non-Bible religion. Eastern philosophy was good, but you don't need God to accept that.

I learned that the Bible is the work of men. I added science into my research and saw that the answers didn't need God.

I would say I added History into my research and saw that god is man made.

Hortensia:

I had an AHA! moment after I attended several different churches and realized they're all the same.

Villagegirl:

Atheists in my opinion secretly believe; if the WT isn't right then God

must be dead, which is like saying, if I can't have it my way ,

This is sooooo typical and tiresome of believers. I actually feel it is the opposite. If believers were so comfortable with their belief, they would not need to project it on others. There are plenty of atheists through history that have had nothing to do with the JWs.

Edit: having now finished the thread I see this has been addressed

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Camelot and the Cult of Cool as the world circled the drain

by Terry in

dwight david eisenhower's nickname was "ike".

as in, "i like ike".

i grew up under his administration which was chiefly known for lots of golf played by the commander in chief and a warning against the military industrial complex.

Berengaria

If you are under 40 you've only known hatred against George W. Bush as an example of polarization in the electorate.

Not really. First off, "hatred" is rather hyperbolic. Disagreement, lack of respect, etc. yes. There was all that for Reagan. Clinton was skewered by his opponents. And of course we've seen juuuuuuuuuuust a bit of negativity directed at Obama.

But, after L.B.J.'s Viet Nam escalations it was inevitable that a canny Dick Nixon would be the result of the backlash on Democrats.

And yet, if truth had been known at the time Nixon never would have won. He foiled peace for his own personal political gain. How many boys died during that time, that might not have? He won the popular vote by less than 1%.

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Camelot and the Cult of Cool as the world circled the drain

by Terry in

dwight david eisenhower's nickname was "ike".

as in, "i like ike".

i grew up under his administration which was chiefly known for lots of golf played by the commander in chief and a warning against the military industrial complex.

Berengaria

On the whole, the sixties and seventies were some of the most divisive times in the history of the country. People talked about civil war and took it seriously.
I dunno, 1861-1865 was pretty contentious