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A few more random thoughts on the new Kingdom Hall design meeting

by sir82 in

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left completely unsaid at the meeting: who is going to be the owner of the property & building when all of these new khs are built?

in the current arrangement, in most cases, a local trust is set up to hold ownership.

of course, the most likely answer is "the watchtower (or whatever shell corporations they set up) will own the land & building".

hoser

Sir82

They mentioned in one of the dozen or so PowerPoint / video clips that right up to the last second, some brothers on the [whatever committee was in charge of making the decision] were still convinced that a "residential style" of Kingdom Hall was the way to go. Then they offered a prayer. Then the chairman of the committee asked "who wants the residential style", and not one hand went up. He then asked "who wants the commercial style" and all the hands went up.

This is 100% bullshit. This meeting may not have ever happened. This is an appeal to authority to quell dissent. If any elder questions this arrangement he is questioning Holy Spirit.

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Being "raised in the truth" a blessing?

by What is Truth? in

how might you respond to the following survey?.

i apologize if this was already posted about, it is just such a poignant issue i wanted to share it.. .

being raised in the truth being raised a witness-perhaps "from infancy," like timothy-is a great blessing.

hoser

I'll answer # 9. Renee never wanted to be a missionary. Her parents wanted her to be a missionary so they would have bragging rights at the next circuit assembly.

Its all a big show.

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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you

by suavojr in

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new kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.

notes and highlights from todays meeting.

opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..

hoser

Having seen a few congregation mergers/closures in the past few years I believe the wt has a master plan in place to screw/rob members of their money. They shift boundaries around and move people in and out of areas so that congregations are set up to fail. Then the Kingdom Hall is sold and money sent to headquarters.

Shortly there is a need for a new building and the locals are guilted into giving once again. Ive seen this happen more than once.

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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you

by suavojr in

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friends

new kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.

notes and highlights from todays meeting.

opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..

hoser

So it is business as usual. Sell off the residential style Kingdom Halls, pocket the money, and guilt the publishers into donating for the new commercial style buildings.

Lather, bend over, rinse, repeat

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More education bashing in April 2015 simplified watchtower

by hoser in

elders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to do more in the congregation.

ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation.

most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in jehovahs ser- vice.

hoser

Elders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20’s or 30’s to do more in the congregation. Ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation. Most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in Jehovah’s ser- vice. And when some young brothers wanted to do more, their parents en- couraged them to set goals involving higher education or a career in the world! So service to God never came first in their lives.—Matthew 10:24.

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Have JW relatives disinherited you? (especially Canadian)

by berrygerry in

interesting court case whereby the entire will was declared void because the father was racist.. would that not also apply to jw's who disinherit their non-jw family?.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/29/judge-rejects-ontario-mans-racist-will-that-disinherited-daughter-for-having-bastard-white-son/.

hoser

Interesting case. I guess it would be similar if one child was disinherited because of sexual orientation.

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How did you get through mind numbing meetings?

by minimus in

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as an elder, i used to find a legitimate reason to wander.

hoser

@cappytan

Then just turned the phone up briefly to see if anyone was disfellowshipped/reinstated or if there were any letters read.

Bet you'd spit out your coffee if your name was read

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Does anyone have any information on lawsuits in regards to JW's victimizing the mentally ill?

by lme123 in

i am a former jw, 14 years removed.

i moved out of state away from my jw family for 10 years, and currently moved back to my home town 2 years ago.

it was a great healing process for me, especially being away from all of the confusing and controversial influences i was raised with.

hoser

I do know in some congregations publishers who show signs of mental illness are falsely accused of secret sins causing their mental illness.

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GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

by Separation of Powers in

my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

hoser

You may have some valid points Juan.

In days past in rural areas small congregations would work very hard to have their own Kingdom Hall. It was their pride and joy.

I guess it just doesn't fit into the corporate strategy anymore. I hope these new changes wake up some folks.

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Is Watchtowers view & practices currently split in two? Split leadership direction?

by thedepressedsoul in

i've been deeply following jw "culture" the last 2 years and i am getting the impression that the leadership is currently split in two different directions.

on one hand you get this sense of a happy, joyful and less strict religion and on the other hand there is still this strict, harsh religion of the past.

let me explain more.. there have been a lot of video's lately that show dancing in kingdom halls, bethel dancing to the "happy" song, jw.org downplaying their beliefs and making it sound like daisies.

hoser

The public watchtower study watchtower split is where the two sides of the watchtower really became noticeable IMHO. What I see now is the jw website is a complete 180 from how the religion is really practiced.

The website says we don't shun former believers, we don't gain salvation by our preaching work and we can let our conscience guide us when we choose entertainment.