Posts by hoser

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Some prayers really annoy me

by stillin in

i realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.

co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".

not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".

hoser

Those people who would act like they were reciting their own version of the Gettysburg Address stressed me out.

Four score and seven years ago the generation er,, I mean overlapping generation.........

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How the Circuit Overseer Manipulates the Body of Elders

by TMS in

jw
friends

the relationship between local elders and the circuit overseer has fluctuated over the years.

in the sixties, .

the circuit overseer simply appointed all the servants.

Brother H was a pioneer, elder and gave talks on the conventions and assemblies. He was a very polished speaker and very zealous for the truth. He would move to congregations where there was a need for elders. He was in our little congregation and was moving on to another after being there for a couple of years.

The remaining elder body consisted of two older brothers and they would not give brother H a recommendation letter to serve. It turns out that brother H was taking advantage of some of the older brothers and sisters financially to enrich himself.

The circuit overseer was good buddies with brother H and came specially to meet with the two older elders. They made the co aware of their reservations. Circuit overseer said that's not how it works in the organization. He wrote a letter of recommendation and forced the two elders hands by threatening to close the congregation.

Fast forward a few years brother H is caught cheating on his wife with a younger pioneer sister and his wife rats him out to the authorities and he is charged with embezzling money.

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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!

by The Searcher in

watchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.

's] have anything to fear?

not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.'s].

hoser

The great tribulation that no one ever talks about is the one recorded at acts 7:11. It is the lost tribulation.

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Some prayers really annoy me

by stillin in

i realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.

co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".

not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".

hoser

When I pray for the congregation I never ask for forgiveness. That's what jebus died for, if he even ever existed.

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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs

by Lady Lee in

thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.

one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?

if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.

hoser

I know of a lot of deaths of young people in the "truth" that were highly suspicious and I think were covered over. Died of a rare flu according to the congregation but nothing said in the media about it.

I do know of a young woman who jumped off a bridge and a young guy that shot himself shortly after. Sad.

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7 day conventions?

by HereIgo in

did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?

i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.

i couldn't imagine.

hoser

I remember 4 days and some evening sessions from the late 60's.

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What is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

we all need to earn a living.... so just curious, what is the worst type of work or job you have ever had to do?.

hoser

The worst job is the one I'm doing right now. I'm CEO of a small company. My job is basically to keep the shareholders and employees from robbing the company blind.

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There is no Holy Spirit.

by hoser in

there is no holy spirit.

i lead a double life.

i post on apostate web sites, swear like a sailor, covertly subvert the watchtower religion and do many other things i'd rather not mention.

hoser

There is no Holy Spirit.

I lead a double life. I post on apostate web sites, swear like a sailor, covertly subvert the watchtower religion and do many other things I'd rather not mention.

I was asked to say a prayer at the meeting. Lol.

There is no Holy Spirit.

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Some prayers really annoy me

by stillin in

i realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.

co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".

not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".

hoser

Public prayers are nothing but ass kissing and bragging. The longer the prayer apparently the more spiritual the person who says it.

The pain at the last prayer of the last day of the convention is effin unbearable.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

hoser

I'm not sure if I have any regrets or if I missed out on fun. I really didn't have a lot of choices. I was programmed to be a mental slave and sex, drugs and university were taboo.

Ive only had sex with one woman, but we've had a stable relationship for close to 30 years and raised some well mannered apostate offspring. I did try mj a couple of years ago as well as smoked a pack of cigarettes. The drugs do nothing for me and the smokes were nothing spectacular.

I've tried the slots, no thrill there. Those machines just end up taking all my money. I quit drinking because I got sick and tired of waking up sick and tired.

I did go to university. For one day. It was on a school trip in grade 12. I am surprised my jw family let me go. I told myself that if I ever was down on my luck and out of a job I'd go back to school. It hasn't happened yet. I might get a degree someday. I'm not totally ruling it out.

I work in a very specialized line of work that there is currently no university or college training for. Most apprentices drop out because it is fairly demanding and can be unpleasant at times. I am paid well for what I do.

If I wasn't a jw as a teenager would my life be better?