When did the jws make the rule that you couldn’t clink glasses together and raise glasses of wine?
And why the change to being a conscience matter now?
When did the jws make the rule that you couldn’t clink glasses together and raise glasses of wine?
And why the change to being a conscience matter now?
scripture consistently warns against intoxication, highlighting how substance abuse weakens judgment and opens individuals to spiritual deception.
while various herbs were used in biblical worship, they were only burned as incense, never smoked or ingested.
additionally, there is no historical record of marijuana being used in ceremonial worship, either in the bible or among ancient civilizations.. warnings against intoxication and loss of judgment.
Cannabis is a legal substance in many countries. It comes in many forms and may or may not be an intoxicant.
I see it as a medicine especially the CBD oils.
The watchtower is hanging on to its old beliefs about marijuana trying to keep the control over the sheeple. Alcohol and caffeine are the only drugs allowed by the Jehovah’s Witness religion.
scripture consistently warns against intoxication, highlighting how substance abuse weakens judgment and opens individuals to spiritual deception.
while various herbs were used in biblical worship, they were only burned as incense, never smoked or ingested.
additionally, there is no historical record of marijuana being used in ceremonial worship, either in the bible or among ancient civilizations.. warnings against intoxication and loss of judgment.
Ephesians 5:18
A scripture that Tony Morris took literally.
this is the watchtower study article being studied today.
so it’s the current new light!.
what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.
Where I’m from they will have to consolidate congregations again just to have enough people to handle microphones.
Two preteen boys handling microphones.
The Kingdom Hall had about 40 to 50 in attendance. The majority were 55 plus in age. This is a merge of two congregations 2 years ago with 100 publishers each!
Zoom killed the org.
so my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
When elders try to guilt shame, threaten, scare me with their Armageddon fantasies and how close we are I would love to tell them:
Yes brother, Armageddon is much closer than we both realize. I can’t wait for this wicked world to be over. When I’m on the other side and if by chance you don’t make it I’ll make sure you are given a proper burial.
Wait for his reaction, then laugh and say just kidding.
so i grew up in a small town with lots of witnesses so being bored we had two fancy dress up parties now some brothers came with swords and fake guns as pirates or cowboys one brother who was a pioneer came dressed as a woman!
the elders smashed us in a talk they gave and these fun parties were cancelled..
A little off topic but when I was young un a brother in our congregation used to have wild alcohol fueled jw parties. The unmarried pioneer sisters were the biggest sluts in attendance.
I was only 16 or 17 so was too young to get any action from a 25 year old regular pioneer or maybe I ran and hid. I was probably drunk and passed out and missed out. Lol.
The neighbouring congregation had such a bad reputation for its teen and early twenty’s members that my parents wouldn’t let us associate with them. They were elders kids that could get away with anything. This was 40 years ago. Now they are the elders.
i was mulling this over last night...too much free time, i know.
both disfellowshipping and shunning indicate the action of avoiding someone, taking them out of your sphere of associates.
probably is a better sound bite to say "removed.
I think they changed the wording and process with minors and older ones to keep their welfare status in Europe. This coincides with the new(old) marking arrangement where individuals are to decide who gets shunned, not announced publicly.
In effect the group gossip mill decide who gets ostracized but it is off the books and doesn’t affect the tax breaks the cultorporation gets.
Follow the $$
so the c.o and his wife came over for dinner and of course checked out our library and saw lord of the rings and told us off for spiritism books...it's just a damn fantasy book the bible has more magic and devils in it.
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We were never taught appropriate boundaries as jehovahs witnesses.
What we thought as normal, looking through private areas of other peoples houses and allowing other people (circuit overseers and elders ) rummaging though our private lives is just dysfunctional.
The circuit overseer would blow a fuse if they saw our dvd collection but they don’t come our way often.
simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.
that's how they sold it.
the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!
Sunk cost fallacy kept them in
as somebody who worked full-time when i was in the witness religion, this topic naturally caught my eye.. many of the responses are heartfelt.
there are about 90 at this point.
from what i read so far.. many are people who woke up before they got old but even these are resentful over their life being derailed with wasted time pursuing spiritual goals and having to start over at a later age getting an education/job.. i imagine born-in young jws would be most susceptible to this.. in today’s world, a ‘career’ is something that earns you a living.. as many of the responses there will say: anybody who pursues ‘spiritual goals’ only will end up with wasted time in the end with no money and no retirement plan… i couldn’t agree more.. it would be a shame if this happens to yet more jws..
LHG
The titles keep the elders and pioneers working for free.
Its really no different than a fast food joint that promotes the fry guy to a “management” position, changes his hourly wage to a salary, purposely gives him a high workload and gets him to work overtime for free.
His reward is employee recognition award that cost 5 cents to photocopy.