Posts by sabastious

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Why 144,000 ?

by exwhyzee in

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if god can read our hearts, why does he need an additional 144,000 creatures in heaven along with the already existing myriads of angels, to assist jesus in separating the sheep from the goats?

is there any scriptural answer for this that you know of?.

sabastious

brotherdan, if they do indeed answer you, I would put a large wager on the prediction that you will not like it.

-Sab

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The Witness Who Cried Wolf

by sabastious in

witnesses, for some reason, feel they deserve massive credibility in bible predictions and interpretations.

enough that they feel they have to right o be considered an universal authority.. their claim to fame comes from, mainly, their stance on blood, the trinity, immortality of the soul and hellfire.

maybe this is actually what the bible teaches... but to me, it is a moot stance in regards to the position they claim to have a right to.. the witnesses have been heralding the coming of christ for well over a century.

sabastious

Sab, your letter is based on an unhelpful belief that the organization can be persuaded to change by logic and reason.

Unhelpful?

Logic and Reason are a last ditch effort.

If they do not listen to them, they will fade into history as a misguided people. They have accomplished a lot since their inception for good and for bad. A new conciousness is fighting against an old definition, how many have to die spiritually, physically and ethically before they concede to the new consciousness?

They will reform or fall, whether my "unhelpful" opinion exists or not.

-Sab

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Why 144,000 ?

by exwhyzee in

jw
friends

if god can read our hearts, why does he need an additional 144,000 creatures in heaven along with the already existing myriads of angels, to assist jesus in separating the sheep from the goats?

is there any scriptural answer for this that you know of?.

sabastious

I thought the teaching was that the 144,000 would be men and womeh from all walks of life so that they could understand a wide range of human experiences and therefore judge them fairly. The thought just occured to me today that God or Jesus shouldn't need help in this if they can read an individuals heart. (whatever that means in reality) This arrangement was obviously made after Adam and Eve sinned because had that not happened, there would be no need for these 144,000 in heaven.

This makes a lot of sense.

-Sab

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The Witness Who Cried Wolf

by sabastious in

witnesses, for some reason, feel they deserve massive credibility in bible predictions and interpretations.

enough that they feel they have to right o be considered an universal authority.. their claim to fame comes from, mainly, their stance on blood, the trinity, immortality of the soul and hellfire.

maybe this is actually what the bible teaches... but to me, it is a moot stance in regards to the position they claim to have a right to.. the witnesses have been heralding the coming of christ for well over a century.

sabastious

Witnesses, for some reason, feel they deserve massive credibility in Bible predictions and interpretations. Enough that they feel they have to right o be considered an Universal Authority.

Their claim to fame comes from, mainly, their stance on Blood, the Trinity, Immortality of the Soul and Hellfire. Maybe this is actually what the Bible teaches... but to me, it is a moot stance in regards to the position they claim to have a right to.

The Witnesses have been heralding the Coming of Christ for well over a century. Every time (and I do mean every time) the Earth or it's inhabitants go through a crisis you can always count on the Witnesses using it to further their message.

These crisis's come and go and, although at the time the Witnesses were shouting loudly at their significance, are now forgotten and archived into our history.

To the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses:

You no longer have any credibility. You have cried wolf too many times. You CANNOT claim to be the sole path to God anymore. You have had your chance, you put your money where your mouth was and you lost.

It's time to man up and figure out your REAL place in this world. If God ever had a vested interest in your message he has long since left you for you have not represented his message accurately nor ethically.

This is not the time to give up, but it is the time to take a good look at yourself in the past, now and what your future can be.

There are a lot of good people under your wings. They will follow you yet some will not. It is time for action, for I believe your very existence is on the chopping block.

You hold the hearts of many of my family members in your grasp, your downfall is their downfall and I do not wish ill upon them.

Please, if anyone with any say in Brooklyn is reading this, hear my plea and act accordingly.

-Sab

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IT'S OVER! I JUST GOT DF'd!!!!

by african GB Member in

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the jc gave me 7 days to appeal, ...well, i am not going to waste my energy trying to win a loosing battle.....or(wait aminute), i can play difficult and strech them to their limit..

sabastious

^ false stories!

No freaking WAY!

-Sab

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Unbelievable CO Talk, scientists lie to us about earthquakes

by maninthemiddle in

just when i thought this stupid belief that earthquakes went up in 1914, here it is again.

4/6/2010.

this was a co giving the talk, the same one that ended with overlapping generations.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27642/earthquake.mp3.

sabastious

Evidently Apostate,

First, your name rules.

Second, a Witness will literally die before they admit to bold faced lies by the WT society about Earthquakes. It takes more than just the facts to sway a conditioned mind, sometimes a lot more.

-Sab

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