I like this thread.
It's a scream.
now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.
spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.
watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.
I like this thread.
It's a scream.
in my old congregation, everyone seems clean.
mostly chaste courtship, kingdom hall wedding, blah blah.. well there are lots of cases of fondling but they were soon forgotton.
when my husband and i confessed to sex before marriage, the elders were disgusted.
Jehovah dont know shit...
he/she had no problem talking to adam and eve ,though they were sinners in his/her sight .throughout the hebrew sriptures, ot, he /she had no problem communicating with fallen man ,imperfect humans , to dictate his will to his subjects by means of prophets , male and female ,according to the bible , the old testament ,the hebrew scriptures , god communicated not once ,not twice ,not even thrice ,but dozens of times during the first 4000 years of human history according to the bible.. why has this god been so silent these past 2000 years ,when their have been atrocities above the scale of anything that has ever been seen these past 6000 years of human existence .. oh you may say that the atrocities were not committed by god they were committed by man.
fair enough .but god intervened in human affairs in such smaller infringements.
with prophets or so the bible says.. the so called apostacy after the last of the apostles , the influence of satan in the world ,( or was that after 1914 ,) and the 2000 year gap when christ was supposed to return ,never mind about all the crap that went before it .. the fact remains we have never heard from god ,any god, or even" a " god, with either his/her approval or disapproval of events good or bad these past 2000 years... smiddy.
Seraphim your an idiot!
if one were to poll present day jehovah's witnesses, what kind of a timeframe do you think they have for armageddon?.
do they still discourage higher education despite the fact they've been wrong so many times?.
one more thing about armageddon...how do they think it's going to start?
I was told back in the 80's it's only months away
Um fail my Ken Grovee. Elder!
It's all religious bullshit never going to happen.
Spent most of my life in fear of this Armageddon shit. No more of that for me. God can suck my balls!
And my mother and her stupid JW religion
ok so if the bible is nothing more then a pagan religious book, then how do all of you that think this, think we got here?
and please don't tell me you believe in evolution, because even the experts are finding major flaws in that theory.
so what is your opinion??
I believe in evolution.
But crazyguy doesn't or is not going to believe any answers anyone gives him
He sounds like my brother in law. Asks a question then won't have the answer you give him. Even when you are dead certain you are correct in said answer
this is more of the same from the people who brought you force adding to their facebook page, pix of board members flipping the bird in front of the kingdom hall.and now the latest debacle is .
:" the sparlockian voice".
yes, this serious group of anti's , that either want to discuss reform with or annihilate the wts has provided more fodder.
My advice ignore this bbxb sites and it will just wither away. It's obviously on the way out. Let it kill itself off. Get on with helping people here. You guys helped my wife and I. Now we have a great little boy 18 months old, which without this forum we would never have had.
Because the Wt drummed into us the end is just around the corner. Yeah right. Bastard WT Org. Man I hate that religion.
I learned the real truth here thanks people.
i notice reported in a number of posts that this seems to a bit of a mantra with the dubbies now, more so than ever in the past.. is this because they are getting desperate for the life they live as jw's to change ?
they don't really want to end their days with the constant drudgery of the jw life still going on, they want something different, but must "wait on jehovah".
sigh.. i wonder if this is a small opportunity for us to sow some small, niggling doubt, why not ask, when they spew out the "it is soooo close" nonsense:.
In 1984 l was told it was only 3 months away. By my book study conductor
The deck head wrong
funny picture in new public watchtower.
evidently there was a digital camera taking pictures about 3,500 years ago.
noah had family worship night in the ark, so all you slackers have no excuse!
My excuse would be, hey old man I am taking a piss in the corner. And I won't be back till this stinking barge is on land.
yesterday, a jwn poster e-mailed me asking if i would post on this discussion board his recent email to steven unthank and also post stevens reply.
the reason for the request is because the poster has need to remain completely anonymous.
i agreed to share the email because i knew you would find stevens reply informative and interesting.. .
My hats off to Steven. As I live in Melbounre, I have seen 1st hand the to shit the WT has been up to. I was baptized in 1984 and have been out for the last 5 years or so. Have seen Elders burn my brother, and a few of my friends from the past over the most idiotic things. And when said brother or friends stood up for themselves the shit storm got worse. these people in charge are Evil to the core. and I hope to see them brought down. In my old cong, you only made Elder or MS if you sucked up to the Elders. And did I see some arseholes move up the chain. Real evil sons of bitches were most of them. I wish I would meet them on the street one day just to have some payback for all the shit ave seen them do to people I grew up with.
there is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.
i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.
(we love and miss you, oompa.).
I lit one too! So sad this news rest my brother.