.....disfellowshipping, i think.. potential disfellowshipping, current disfellowshipping, disfellowshipping of people we love.. it's the most genius cult tool ever invented..
....I'm also here for personal therapy.
I suppose I've got a story to tell and I'll throw it out here some time when I feel like rolling around in it. I haven't noticed a particular place everyone starts at.
One thing I have noticed since I joined, is I've actually talked about stuff, which is something I have not done ever.
quaking in their boobsfacebook effort pokes fun at iranian imamif the immodest women of the western world have anything to do with it, there should have been a whole lotta shakin going on yesterday.. boobquake - a global effort to induce earthquakes by exposing flesh - is catching on here and elsewhere, as hundreds of thousands of women exult in the mystical powers an iranian imam has attributed to their cleavage.. imam hojatoleslam kazem sedighi reportedly said last week: many women who do not dress modestly .
lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which increases earthquakes.. that prompted a piqued purdue university senior, jennifer mccreight, to declare yesterday the first international boobquake, with a facebook page that had more than 207,000 fans as of last night.
mccreight implored women to flesh it up in one 24-hour period to see if a concerted sporting of racy outfits could cause earthquakes.. mccreight says on her page: with the power of our scandalous bodies combined, we should surely produce an earthquake.
I know the WBATS tries really really hard to be the stupidest cult on the planet, but Islam has had over a 1000 years to perfect it's brand of stupid.
.....disfellowshipping, i think.. potential disfellowshipping, current disfellowshipping, disfellowshipping of people we love.. it's the most genius cult tool ever invented..
.......to help anyone that doubts just how vile the WBATS really is.
i am asking because i don't get the appeal!.
(preface: at hospital today, can't leave floor to get another h20 bottle, just tried drinking coffee again for the first time in 14years).
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I have an espresso machine (Krups) every morning I make a double shot with some very dark beans. I dilute the shots by 1/2 with hot water and drink it black. It's strong flavored and rich and it taste wonderful.
I don't drink any more coffee the rest of the day.
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
---gutted---
You are going in the right direction, don't stop.
i read somewhere that the wt holds that a person who refuses to have sex with the spouse is somehow "forcing" the spouse to commit adultery.
i consider this ridiculous, but, in the interest of learning more, may someone explain this to me?.
would the spouse thus "forced" be disfellowshipped?
If the WBATS is saying it's the womans fault that the husband has stepped out of the marriage, it's just more stupid from the steaming pile of stupid.
The WBATS can't offer a solution because the solution would involve counseling outside of the KH and counseling out of the KH would likely lead to "followers" discovering the "truth".
And we can't have that can we ?
---palmtree---
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
Move far enough away, or farther, that driving is not convenient.
The confusion will lessen when the input you don't want to hear stops.
i really needed to find a place to write this as i don't believe i can talk with anyone else about my account, perhaps it is similar to a lot of yours.. last night for whatever reason i said i would go online and look up information on jws.
i have been raised as a jw all my life and baptized the last few years.
i looked at www.freeminds.org and www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com and couldn't believe how easily the whole of my lifes teachings were refuted.. i can't stop my brain from running, bs just in regards to theology alone (1914, paradise earth, celebrations etc.
---gutted---
Do you mind stating how old you are ?
so i gather most of the people on this forum are ex-jws who have seen the error of their ways.. good for you guys.. would that put you in the unique position of knowing exactly how to make a current jw have doubts.. if so, how might that be?.
i've tried science, philosophy, even simple logic and pointing out the quote mining but to no avail.. i'm not even saying there isn't a god, just that their version of the story blatantly contradicts emperical science in so many ways..
I have never come up with a way into the followers mind.
I'm sure the key into the mind would be to make them think, that unfortunately is want is most tightly controlled by the WBATS. Everything the WBATS hasn't told the follower is probably the key.
That's only a guess
An educated JW is called an Ex JW
i have been in a world of pain this weekend.. some of you know the ongoing battle i have had with my ex wife, an uber dub hypocrite, over seeing my kids more.
3 weeks ago i managed to secure an agreement from her that provided my 13 yr old daughter friday night to sunday afternoons and for my 16 yr old son to have friday night to sat afternoon with the option to extend it to sunday if he so desires.
this is each second weekend.. first due weekend visit she rearranged the days so that she was technically pre agreement start date.
Making the children aware of the agreement is a great idea.
Them knowing the rules between you and the ex will allow them see how she's using them to manipulate.
BTW you didn't hurt your children, you educated them
