Posts by notverylikely

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

It`s Obvious..You don`t have a Clue..

Don`t give up your "day job" Sherlock..

OK, got it, you are just stirring the pot, straining the gnat to swallow the camel.

God, at times, chooses individuals for specififc tasks, he doesn't choose just "anyone" and he certainly doesn't deal with "organizations".

All valid questions, and I don't have the answer, but I am not sure if it would be in out best interest for God to be more "in our faces".

I mean, the people that God does have more direct contact with don't always have the best life, do they?

No, but I prayed for years and heard nothing. I wasn't worried about an organization, I was worried about me. And Jesus wandered around and talked to just about everyone. In the Bible, god clearly CAN communicate with people whenever he wants, but apparently just chooses to ignore people most of the time.

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Why doesn't God MAKE the world listen to him?

I don't know, but I am not sure I would want a GOD that would force people to do things and make no mistake about it, IF God were to play that card it would be "I AM GOD !!! DO WHAT ISAY !!!"

I am making the point that saying you only hear God's message if you are tuned into listen is bunk because God certainly has made people hear his message many times without them seeking him out. Listening, agreeing, following instructions are different things.

And god kinda does say "I am god, do what I say" because the alternative is eternal hellfire. Hmmm....obey or die? not much of a choice...

She did answer that, NVL.

No.... not really ...she played sematic games to do everything BUT answer it.

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Where does the Bible say,God "Placed" a Bush in front of Moses???????

Where?..

The Bible says..Moses had to "Go" to the Bush..

Your no match for Shelby..LOL!!..

Seeing a burning bush in the middle of nowhere was physical manifestation of God. Moses saw it because god mad ethe bush burn where he would see it. The scripture says " There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, "I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up."

Sounds like god made sure something appeared right in front of Moses, not "moses seeking out god" there.

Perhaps before you tell me I don't know what I am talking about you should make sure you know what you are talking about.

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Don't they all ?

;)

They better if I am paying...

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

So, you wish to continue? Well, okay, let's, dear NVL... and, again, peace to you! Yes, Adam heard my Father walking about. He also HEARD the warning about eating from the Tree. Which warning... he CHOSE... NOT to "hear."

Sorry, you don't get to change the meanings of words when you are backed into a corner. He heard it. He chose to ignore. God made him listen. Same with the others. Don't try to muddle hearing with agreeing or caring. You miss the point. God makes people hear when he wants to. Why doesn't he make the whole world listen.

And yet, an angel was standing right in front of Balaam... and he neither saw nor heard it. But the donkey did... Perhaps you should stop relying on what you've HEARD about the account... and read it for yourself. Perhaps. Your choice, though.

Exactly. Then the angel made the donkey talk so Balaam could hear. Again, an example of God/angels making sure people can hear them when God/angels want to. You miss the point. God makes people hear when he wants to. Why doesn't he make the whole world listen.

The physical manifestation came... BECAUSE Belshazzar chose not to LISTEN.

You miss the point. God makes people hear when he wants to. Why doesn't he make the whole world listen.

As regards Moses, he could have chosen NOT to investigate the bush... as many would.

But he had to see the bush because god placed it right in front of him. Don't confuse listening with being forced by God to see/hear. God makes people hear when he wants to. Why doesn't he make the whole world listen.

No. God is a spirit and so He does not rest as we do. He rested from what He was doing THEN... and began another "work," which work my Lord continues to this day.

You CAN get this NVL... you and everyone else here. If you WANT to. You can hear God speak though His Son... if you WANT to. First, though, you have to entertain the POSSIBILITY that He DOES speak... and you CAN hear.

Why are you disagreeing with the Bible? It says god rested, not the other stuff you are saying. Why do you disagree with god?

And answer the question, if god can clearly force people to acknowledge him and hear him when it suits him, why does he play cloak and dagger? why doesn't he just make everyone hear his message and then leave what they want to do up to the individual?

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Whereas any voice that "asks" us to hurt another or allow another to be hurt, is NOT a "voice from God".

But what if the voice says she likes it when you pull her hair and it hurts a little?

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Actually, he chose NOT to hear it, didn't he? He chose not to LISTEN... just as YOU chose not to listen.

Adam heard god walking through the garden and had to hide...he heard despite his wishes.

Wrong again. Balaam actually made a different choice... than his donkey. It was when the donkey spoke to him that he DECIDED he had better listen and find out what the heck. Prior to, however, he actually ignored the angel.

Wow, cogntive dissonance has set it. When someone is standing in front of you and talking, you see that person and heard them whether you want to or not. You can choose to ignore them, but you still see and hear them. Same with Moses. You are wrongfully equating agreeing and listening with seeing and hearing.

Ummmm... first, I'm thinking that was Nebuchanezzar's son, Belshazzar, and second, we are talking about hearing... and you don't hear writing. Be that as it may, I would think, given the circumstances surrounding "the writing on the wall"... one would hope to HEAR about something like this (i.e., what it is pronouncing)... than to have to wait and SEE it inscribed in this way. Unfortunately, Belshazzar had made HIS spirit HARD.

You are correct, it was Neb's son. Point is, they had to see the hand on the wall and the words. They could choose to ignore them, but they were phsically manifested before them, just like the bush before Moses and the angel before Balaam. Again, you are equating agreeing with the message with hearing the message. My point is that when god wants to, he can force people to see and hear the message, no tuning required on the part of the listener.

Certainly. But you might want to note that the ONLY ones He MADE listen... were those who WOULDN'T. Those who WANTED to hear... heard... and did so without any problem.

Exactly, he can when he wants to. Why doesn't he do that for everyone?

And, yet, "The Bible" also quotes my Lord as saying:

"My Father has KEPT WORKING until now..."

Which is why I stated that they do not rest "as WE do."

So the Bible contradicts itself and isn't internally consistent. No surprise there. As long as you only pick the parts you like it's easy to like the Bible.

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Jesus and the Demons

by Weeping in

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friends

jesus christ and demons.

my question to christians who doubt the devils existence: why would jesus bother casting out demons if they dont exist?.

why would paul say in romans 8:37-39 "...in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

notverylikely

Satan himself is behind America's shidt to the left. Consider this: Those that don't tow the PC line and dare voice their disagreement, especially if they happen to be followers of Jesus Christ, are smeared and demeaned. They're branded right-wing evangelical bigots. In many instances dissenters who appear on public platforms are shouted down. Some conservatives have had pies and garbage thrown at them.

Well, I tow the PC line, but mainly because the apps I need aren't available on Mac.

Oh, and what you just wrote was BS. The nutty evangelicals who insist the country has to live according to their values are the ones we like to make fun of. You clearly have no concept of history. Jesus in government is bad no matter which side they are on.

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Ahhhh, here is where you are in error, dear one. You absolutely have a choice. That which is spirit is not the same as that which is physical. When a physical sound is made, IF you have enough hearing capacity, you will hear it.

Oh, and based on thwe bible, it is you who are wrong. Let's look at some examples...

- God had a message for Adam, he heard it.

- Moses...check burning bush gave him no choice but to hear

- Balaam...angel forced him to hear the message

- Pharohs....yep, they hear the message either in dreams or plagues as proof

- Paul....forced to hear it

- Joseph (both of them)...god came in a dream and he had to hear

- Daniel had visions, he couldn't make them not happen

- Message to Nebuchanezzar written on the wall, had no choice but to see it...

Shall I go on? If god wants someone to the message, they will. And it is often a physical presence and sound.

Spirits are ANYTHING but silent. Unlike physical man they don't shut down; they don't sleep. The don't "rest" as we do.

Wrong, the bible said god rested.

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Whose Voice Should We Listen To?

by AGuest in

to the household of god, israel, and all those who go with... may you have peace!.

i was recently directed to post some truths about the harlot, babylon the great, including who she is (i.e., those who profess to be in union with christ, but are not, and so commit fornication with the "kings of the earth" (e.g., persons such as popes, gb members, and other so-called "leaders" who believe they have been given charge over a "kingdom"... but have not... yet (revelation 17:12)... and when they are, it is soley for the purpose of destroying the harlot (revelation 17:13, 16-18)).. some have taken issue with this truth (who babylon the great is), and praise jah, our lord has given me more to share with you on that matter.

some of you may have already received this truth; however, for those who have not, i share the following, taken from chapters 8 and 9 of the proverbs:.

notverylikely

Ummmmm, if they call you... and your phone isn't charged... then what?

Then they I, dunno, leave a message, try again later, email me, write me a letter, come over to my house.... I guess god is either too lazy or doesn't care enough, eh?

I can tell by your gravatar date that perhaps you're new here, so I will explain: unfortunately, there are some people, like yourself perhaps, who don't believe ANYTHING... unless they see it.

And there are some suckers that will believe anything, like perhaps you. Was there a point in that "you're a newbie so let me explain how things work around here...". Here's a hint, I ain't newbie at too many things.

I did not say that Paul wasn't inspired, although, I would say, and did imply, that his letters weren't inspired.

A distinction without difference. Let me re-phrase....why are yoyu spreading uninspired messages?

So, either Paul was a "victim" of the same "new light" kind of "[Holy Spirit]" (i.e., one that doesn't know what it wants or believes itself)... just like the WTBTS is... or the Holy Spirit wasn't involved at all and he wasn't inspired when he wrote these things

And that sounds just like you....you know better, you know more, god revealed to you and all these other people got it wrong....you sound JUST LIKE THE WTBS.

It is NOT God's Word. CHRIST... is God's ONLY Word... and if one listens to HIM... one does not need the Bible.

The stuff Jesus taught was being taught at least 2000 years earlier by babylonians. why is Jesus more special? He was nothing original or special. And you are 100% right about one thing, no one needs the bible.