Too funny... :)
Awww, thanks Tammy. You and PSacramento and lots of others are great people. We might not see things the same way, it that doesn't mean I don't lurves you all! I try to lighten the mood sometimes :)
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
Too funny... :)
Awww, thanks Tammy. You and PSacramento and lots of others are great people. We might not see things the same way, it that doesn't mean I don't lurves you all! I try to lighten the mood sometimes :)
on freeminds.org, randy w wrote this about himself:.
even as a strict jehovahs witness for eight years, i never once shunned or failed to speak to a disfellowshipped person.
it is simply cruel.
Cigars, girls, strippers, gambling (poker, not at casinos), drunkeness, smoked cigarettes (since quit). Pretty much anything I wanted except stealing and drugs.
Oh, am i supposed to not still be going to meetings every now and then when I am doing those things? Oooops, I might get in trouble.
please note that this list is intended to apply to the fundies alone.
not to all nonbelievers.
so let's turn the mirror and grab some popcorn:.
Jeez and I though Fundamentalist christians had no sense of humour.
They're both the no-fundamentalists....
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
It was a joke because Jews don't eat pork...
Orthodox Jews or Jews who otherwise remain Kosher don't eat pork. Bacon is delicious and you will pay if you try to take it from me.
Well, I have to agree that many are still debating who Jesus was and his message, this is true.
That's pure BS and you kno....wait, sorry, reflex ;)
Next time you're in town I'll buy you dinner and ...one of those things we talked about that time.
You do the research and believe what is in your heart, we are all as full of shit as everyone else, LOL !
In that case, I beleive it is time for a drink.
Practice making some girl into a mommy.
i came across this a few weeks back while doing some online research http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/ (i hope that's how you post links) and i'm curious to know if any of you have done research into this book and what are your comments/thoughts on it?.
i've read through the watchers and the adam and eve story, quite interesting opens up another angle of the whole "in the beginning".... how accurate is this book?
why was it left out of the bible?
The Book of Enoch invisibly returned to the Bible in 1975
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
Very debatable.
Not really. There is an astounding lack of agreement on the message. Baptists (with all their branches), Lutheran, Methodist, Catholics (with all their branches), the people that handle the snakes, the JW's, the Millerites, 7th Day, Christadelphians, Jews for Jesus, the people that think Jesus wanted them to be rich....
Very apparent.
I admire your stamina!
Thanks, you too! (heading the jokes off at the pass..."Those aren't pillows!"...."That's not my hand!")
all where equal master or slave".
That was in relation to getting to heaven, it wasn't in any way "slavery is bad". And Shelby (AGuest) says Paul wasn't inspired and just spouting off. Who do I believe?
When Jesus said that by loving your enemy you would "reap hot coals" on his head, he meant that, in showing our love to those that KNOW they don't deserve it, that, IF they were willing of course, they woudl change and see the truth and beauty in our example.
Hopefully ;)
I hope that's what he meant too. Otherwise he was being kind of a dick about it.
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
The depends on who you think Jesus was now, doesn't it?
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! No one really knows and hardly ANYONE agrees on who the guy was or what is universal truth was.It seems like it wasn't very "universal".
Now who is creating a distinction where there was none?
Exactly my point. If that's how you want to parse what other people said, you shouldn't be surprised when that happens to you. If that's what we are doing, I can do that ALL day long, my man.
Jesus's message of liberation and euality for ALL was just that, Jesus understood the slave system and the best way to "undermine" it
Since no one wrote any hearsay that Jesus ever said that, that has to go under the file labeled "Conjecture and Speculation".
Jesus was far more accepting of women and outcasts than anyone before him, womwn played a central role in his ministry and even afterwards.
True. It's hard to be a rabble rouser when you are not talking to the rabble.
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
Fact is, we speak about these things because of Jesus and his followers, not because of what was written in some babylonian ( or other culture) writings that was aimed at a small group of people.
Even the devil is given his "due"...
OK, so then let's keep going with that. Jesus taught it because others did. Why didn't he give them their due and instead fraudulently claim the message as his own?
i have been watching the discovery channel's, 'into the universe with stephen hawking' and it occurred to me that professor hawking knows more about heaven (which is just part of entire universe) than jesus did.
maybe jesus knew about black holes, alien life, other worlds, the origin of the universe, etc.
jesus could have told us something so remarkable about our universe that it would have taken us 2000 years to confirm jesus' divine knowledge and prove he was the son of g-d, but he instead decided to tell us that heaven "has many rooms"- whoop-dee-doo.. i don't think jesus had a clue that there was anything out the in the physical universe beyond what he could see with his own eyes.
but we also have to be honest and admit that the teachings of Jesus, if nothing else about him, deserve some respect and admiration.
Which ones? The love parts was as old as the hills. Those weren't really HIS teachings.
Sure the message of love each other and the "golden rule" were around before him, but they were never applied to ALL people, just to which ever group it as aimed at and always with some form of recompense attached to it ( typically).
That's not true. Buddha was teaching the same thing. The Bablyonians said to love your enemy. They did not say"only within this social group" at all. You are creating a distinction where none exists. Jesus' tacit support of slavery shows that HIS message didn't extend that far down either. He only every talked about the people is his social group. He said love all men, never all women. If you want to get all nitpicky, Jesus clearly, if not approved, clearly never disapproved of slavery which wouldn't make sense in the context of his message applying to ALL people and he never said much about women, just men, so if he wasn't an outright misogynist, then at least he approved of the system.