According to WT, there are invisible people running around everywhere. I have never seen one. I don't know anybody that has ever seen one. I don't know anybody that can take me somewhere and show me one.
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in the book of job, satan ( who is already the enemy of god) is talking to god about allowing him to torment job to prove a point on the real reason job and humans serve him.
they have a one on one conversation.. when you really think about it,why would god talk or even listen to satan if they are true enemies?.
being a witness for over 35 years,the wts made me fear satan and his demons.
According to WT, there are invisible people running around everywhere. I have never seen one. I don't know anybody that has ever seen one. I don't know anybody that can take me somewhere and show me one.
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when i fell for him i was completely unaware of his upbringing as a jw and only became aware once he decided to leave a few months back.
being raised without much of a religious basis, besides the typical western christian exposure, i have researched, read, attended groups, read in this forum, to try to better understand him, and jws, but i am feeling at a loss here.
he just recently left the jws and now i am experiencing this struggle with him; i am wondering how much of our problems can be contributed to this transition.
When a man tells a woman to "Shut up" and "F--- you", i'm just not okay with that. That's a huge red flag for me. I realize I don't have all the facts here, but that's a bad vibe for me.
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this is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".
i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.
this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.
I listened to the entire talk this morning while commuting to work. Unbelievable. I have read the April 2010 WT several times and now listened to the talk and I can't see how ANYBODY could ever make sense of this.
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i started reading "apostate" books when i was a teen at the library.
it was more curiousity than anything else.
at home, i used to read all the old publications and i'd notice how beliefs had changed.. with ray franz's books that i read clandestinely, i started to realize the truth about "the truth".
I woke up on December 18, 2009. Started to fade immediately, slowly at first. Last meeting was the memorial in March/April (can't remember the date).
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could it be the holiday weekend and they don't have anything better to do?.
If they can conjure up 607, 1914, 1918 and 1919 in the bible, I'm ready to reconsider.
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it's funny how when you think you've gotten queued up in the paradise line how you'll pooh pooh detractors.. age has a way of sobering you up.. of course the internet was a great help.. if you want to find out what's wrong with anything, all you have to do is select the topic and throw in a pejorative, and bam!, you've got hundreds if not thousands of people who'll give you the other side.. if you've not in a jw family, and you're not a mental troglodyte, i can't see anyone making that koolaid-bath plunge into jw-land..
gubberningbody - I didn't realize you were a former apologist. I've only been on the forum for a month or so.
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just a simple question this time.
say a special pioneer came to town, and i gave him a place to stay at home.
would i get anything from it, in terms of privileges or the like?.
Witness 007 - Hilarious! Funny stuff. What did they say when you asked for money?
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recently i have been approached by an elder and asked if i could get going again in the door to door preaching activity due to not having any time in for three months.
i told him it was due to health reasons, etc.
now it seems i am due for a sheperding call in the very near future.
Just simply decline the shepharding call, and if they ask again just decline that also. As Blondie says, they aren't gonna DF over not wanting a shepharding call.
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to everything turn, turn, turn...... a generation comes and a generation goes:.
first, it was god's promise that some of the generation of people who witnessed the events of 1914 would still be alive when the great tribulation starts.. it was speculated that a generation could be 40 years, 70 years, 80 years, 100 years, or even possibly 120 years long.. then, as the years went by, year after year after year passed by... no end in sight.. finally in the 1980's and 90's, it was announced that the generation would include all of those people who were born in 1914. that bought them another few years.. for decades, each and every issue of awake!
magazine featured this declaration at the beginning:.
Good breakdown. Thanks!
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i've heard of some jw leaders telling members of the congragation they shouldn't have guns for self defense.
i mean, how is someone going to feel comfortable smiting your other cheek if you have...like...a .357 magnum pointed at their face?
i'd probably smile and say, "hey, that's an unusual color for a bible!
My presiding overseer about three years ago mentioned to me in a van full of people that he doens't have a gun for self defense. He explained that if somebody ever should break in his house, he will lie down and explain to them that they is a JW and that they do a good work in helping people.
I spoke up and said "while you are explaining all that to him, when he comes into my house I'm gonna go ahead and shoot him".
He didn't really say much. I could tell he didn't approve.
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