http://www.seattlechildrens.org/research/initiatives/bioethics/events/pediatric-bioethics-conference/.
2013 conference: cases that keep us awake at night: challenges in pediatric bioethicsjuly 19 and 20, 2013, bell harbor international conference center, seattleregistration opens in mid-januaryclinical ethics seeks to address the ethical issues that arise in the care of individual patients.
clinicians and families may seek advice from the clinical ethics consultant or ethics committee when cases present difficult issues or significant conflicts over values.
gladimout - thanks for bringing this to our attention. It would be great to get updates on this and how it plays out in the media.
I'm still amazed that the blood issue isn't a bigger deal - that senior JW's are not in prison for the murder of children through their cultish policies. In terms of religious freedom would a modern Maya culture be allowed to sacrifice their children? Would it be tolerated?
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i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .
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cedars.
am I missing something - show this picture to any kid and ask what they see and it's God, heaven, angels and a bunch of men in suits. So yeah I'd say jesus was missing from the pic.
And to a previous posters point - no large army of sisters... women are certainly under represented. This pic would and could never be used by any corporation given how lacking it is in diversity.
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i mean no disrespect to sd-7 or his fine thread on which this picture has already featured, but i think it is just so ridiculous that it deserves a thread all of its own.. lurkers and apologists, this is how your precious organization views itself.... behold the madness.... .
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cedars.
Did the bible contain pictures? Did jesus spend his days painting pictures? Why do they waste so much effort in producing and distributing stuff that isn't the original bible? They have gone so far as to invent their own style of artwork - what kind of waste of time, money, energy is that? The poor gimps in the art department having to do this - some may even have artistic talent. They are about 500 years behind the churches who turned to art to bring some glamour and reverence to themselves and scripture.
they are a religious Marvel comic wannabe - "cult" is the word that best fits
haha!
i asked a co-worker who is not familiar with jehovah's witnesses how would he define the term "annointed remnant.
he replied "isn't that was john bobbit was left with after lorena took a knife to him.
ouch! hahaha that's good
wow it felt good to type that heading, if only it were officially true!.
i guess i dont want to dwell on "ttatt" too much, though i am now an inactive jw now, and will be forever, i dont want to be defined by that.
but i will certainly keep an eye on this forum, contribute where i feel i can, and i must say thankyou to those who moderate it and keep it running.
er wow - beautifully written. So many things you see clearly. I hope it has helped you writing it down because it has helped me reading it. This is the first thread of yours I have read. i do not know you or the life you have had yet I can understand, and agree with your views on all the topics you have raised. Maybe that's because what we were taught as JW's was not logical, was not right and a normal reasoning person who is not under their control would also agree.
I wish you well skygreen (great name now I know what it means)
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those obviously aren't my words, they are from the latest study edition of the watchtower (april 15th, 2013) page 11.. .
it's nice to know that, not only are we "mentally diseased" - we are also now "gangrenous.
" since the society seems to enjoy using medical terms to insult us, are there any bets what the next published insult will be?
evidently Paul meant "the hope of salvation" to specifically include shunning anyone who the 20th & 21st century faithful & discreet slave class has labelled an apostate and keeping away from the internet.
Brothers we should continue to shield ourselves with strong hope from those asthmatic daibetic menopausal apostates.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174181/sales-rep-repeatedly-accused-gay-didn-t-like-football-wins-44-000-payout-harassment.html.
this story is weird on too many levels.
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old story i know but these guys both still work at the company. How wrong is that? mmxiv
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174181/sales-rep-repeatedly-accused-gay-didn-t-like-football-wins-44-000-payout-harassment.html.
this story is weird on too many levels.
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several of the comments are negative towards JW's and not surprisingly!
Bullies thrive in an environment where there are people to pick on who won't fight back - I certainly knew a few JW bullies - not many but a few bad ones. JW's are also terrible homophobes so would be happy to align these views with any footie fans.
real shame someone had to go through this. but i guess this is a worldly person's response to being treated so badly - get compensation and justice through the courts. Can't see any JW's doing that - they'd just speak to an elder and be told not to go through the courts.
I hope the guy finds a job in a decent company - must have been hell for him.
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hi pepeep am attempting to get a current list of uk travelling overseers.
left 4 years ago and have heard rumours of many new ones.
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Keith Gayden aka Robocop on account of his gestures and head movement. He always banged on about how bad "balance" was - that is was used as an excuse for not doing what we should. Certainly shook the tree and wasn't as boring as some.
Anton Irons - gestapo - asking judgemental questions of those he wanted to categorise into those boxes that would require elders to hound out of the truth. Anti-education. Fussy which family he stayed with during his visits. Loved himself.
Roy Renouf & Peter Nicholls proper old school. Didn't know they were still doing the job - certainly earned their retirement.
soileddumpling, belated welcome!
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we have debated this over many years and in many threads, as all of us have family and/or former friends still in.
it seems that there is no "best" way to wake up a jw, it is as elusive as the "true" religion it seems.. but a comment made by poster "emery" on another thread stood out to me, he/she said :.
"what i have gathered is that most witnesses seem to be in it for emotional reasons.
Phizzy, yes. Even JW's warn about being "stumbled" which is surely when another JW or the GB do something to "hurt" you emotionally. I'd say it is an important factor although others such as learned behaviours, routine, social dependency all conspire to keep people in.
I disagreed with most of the pivotal teachings, lifestyle and impact on my prospects yet it took me years to leave. This was because of fear of not being socially and financially independent. I'd agree to a certain extent that an emotional kick led me to decide to go but frankly there had been dozens, maybe hundreds of those - I felt as a JW that rejection and emotional upset was a daily way of life.
The silent lambs BBC program played a powerful part - that made me so angry. I guess that is doctrine but maybe all those emotional embarassments, humiliations, anger at stupid magazine articles or talks or answers played their part.
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