I recall the 'reasoning' was that at that point, after the big A, the univerasl issue of sovereignty was settled...those that go another way...instanly killed..
It takes a conscious effort to recall all that...to think, that used to be my 'reality'
freeflyingfaerie
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Lets pretend the JW's are right for a moment...
by puffthedragon indon't worry, i'm not loosing my mind.
but whether you are christian, agnostic, atheist, thor-worshipper or otherwise, just pretend with me for a moment.. armageddon comes and wipes out wicked people.
there is a resurection and some kind of test and the ones that pass make it into the glorious new world.. how long would it last before a revolt?
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Desert View, Bonanza, Providence, Summerlin congregations in Las Vegas
by freeflyingfaerie in...if these congregations sound familiar to you, we may know each other.
feeling that feeling again to want to connect with others that have left...and are now living... feel free to pm me if you wish to remain incognito~.
(guess that means i'll have to check those pm's lol).
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freeflyingfaerie
...if these congregations sound familiar to you, we may know each other
Feeling that feeling again to want to connect with others that have left...and are now living..
Feel free to pm me if you wish to remain incognito~
(guess that means I'll have to check those pm's lol)
Love~
~Faerie
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Local cult exiting groups - a wish
by cog_survivor inreading some of the exit/fader stories my heart breaks.. i wish there were some kind of local support groups for people who want help in leaving behind their cult lives.
living in the heart of the midwest, there really isn't anyone to turn to.
i would have loved to meet with others in a safe enviroment to work through some of the issues.. all the implanted fears make people scared to turn to other religious organizations.
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freeflyingfaerie
I've wished for it too.
The first year I was out, a new 'friend' (not ex cult) was a good listener and introduced me to new experiences. (Sadly I was naive and mistook her character, and we are no longer 'friends'.) It was like being a teenager in a way. So it was pretty raw the first year out, my eyes were becoming wide open to everything. Then in early 2010, a year after my leaving, I stumbled upon JWN an was blown away. Began reading Crisis of Conscience and Combatting Cult Mind Control...it was like therapy. Also read other various books about self-help and spirituality, pagans.... those alone helped me feel connected to others.
But, nothing replaces human contact. And, that in my experience is more difficult to have...to relate to others on a deeper level, especially regarding leaving a life of cultdom. I looked for meet-up groups, found nothing specific to this really. And my self am not much of an organizer of groups, to start one. When I had facebook, I connected with a few random people from my past who have also left. That has been really helpful. But still, much of the healing and growing is done all alone. That's my experience.
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Single Mother's Who Have Left
by dontplaceliterature ini'm sure there are some on this forum, but i'm not sure how many and who.
i'm hoping to talk to a single mother who has left the organization without the support of a husband.
i have a personal jw friend who is in the process of leaving the organization with her two small children and is having a tough time.
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freeflyingfaerie
Hello~
There is no denying that it is very challenging to be a single mother, but to remain in an unhealthy relationship with a person and/or religion won't make things better. Your friend's choice to leave is wonderful. She may find a new perspective on life, freedom of spirit, inner strength she never knew she had, really live.
Huge for me has been letting go of fear, not letting it paralyze you or limit you. Letting it go and having, dare I say it, a little faith that things will be ok or even more than ok. Faith in others also. There are true, kind people around that I never imagined would embrace me and my little ones as they have, to the extent that they have. Sometimes it's hard to accept help and even love, wanting to not be dependent on others. Having said that, it takes a tremendous amount of hard work, sacrifice, tears, humor, surrendering....to create an environment for my self and little ones with a measure of peace and well-being.
Feel free to pm me~
~Faerie
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A happy life for a gay ex-JW
by Steve_C ini'm not sure if this is the correct place to put this, but here goes.. i've posted a few times before about different subjects.
in some of those posts ive mentioned that im gay, and in others ive referred to my wife and kids.
i thought id share a bit more information to any who were curious about this.
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freeflyingfaerie
That gave me chills! How wonderful for you and your family! That photo is beautiful of you and your daughter smiling into each other. Very good to hear your story.
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Introducing Mrs Cedars...
by cedars ini just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.
she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.
she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.
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freeflyingfaerie
Hello and Welcome MrsCedars~
You two do have great matching avatars! Adorable.
~Faerie
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Was Any Part of it Real?
by Big Tex ini'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.
i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.
a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.
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freeflyingfaerie
I think a relationship with that kind of person isn't real if it was based on a lie, a false front.
I think I see what you mean. For me, the deciding factor on whether or not the person is a real friend is based largely on intuition...is this a 'false front', or have they let their guard down? I would like to think I remember having a few genuine friends that I could trust, have candid discussions with, and it was heart to heart. Maybe I was being naive, but I feel that the close friends I had were being the best friends they could be..considering that we were all being brainwashed together.
I can say my feelings and behaviors were real, but not so much for the other person.
Maybe they feel the same about you? Is it being honest to think you were more sincere than any of them? It is open to speculation, I guess.
The relationship itself was built on a flawed premise so in the end you let it go and move on.
Yes, built on a flawed premise, but it doesn't erase that something real could've evolved from it still. And yes I agree, in the end you let go and move on....that's where I felt much heartache...but had to be true to myself.
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Young nonJW girl's insight into JWs
by tornapart infound this very interesting.
she hasn't met jws and made this video based on what she had seen from ex jws videos.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvw9otqqe_k&feature.
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freeflyingfaerie
I love her already! What an intelligent, insightful and caring girl. It was a pleasure taking a virtual walk with her around her back yard and hearing her thoughts.
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Was Any Part of it Real?
by Big Tex ini'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.
i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.
a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.
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freeflyingfaerie
But, the sake of discussion, you discover that that person you trusted and believed in was nothing but a facade? What if you discovered that they were lying not only to you but to themselves? And everything they were, everything they did was built upon a false facade?
It is one thing if they knowingly created a facade. It is another if their belief system is a facade, they unwittingly playing the pawn. I call a friend someone that is sincere, genuine...even if misguided. If this person knows they are a fake...not a friend. I believe that my close friends while in the religion were just that, friends...even if misquided like myself at the time.
And so I say again, it was never real. I was real. What I felt was real. The love and devotion were real. But at the end of the day you realize you can only control yourself and the only person you can really understand and believe in is yourself.
I have to agree with the bolded part, ultimately. But, idealist that I am, I do think that others have it in them to be a real friend, rare as it may be.