Posts by Chaserious

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Is the Watchtower Shifting All Financial and Legal Risk to Local Elders, are they 100% liable for Negligence?

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

what is the watchtower organization leaving behind for all the kingdom halls after their done siphoning them dry?

who is going to pay for a lawsuit or damages when some incompetent elders or three are busted for something very bad?

will the watchtower help or leave them alone for the sharks to shred to pieces?

Chaserious

the BoE would be any new plaintiff's first target.

Individuals are never a plaintiff's first target unless they are covered by insurance or top 1%-ish wealthy.

Whether there is organizatonal liability depends on what is involved in the lawsuit. I cant think of what kind of lawsuits would expose elders to liability on a frequent basis. I dont recall ever hearing of an elder exposed to personal liability for a congregation matter; not that it couldn't have happened.

I'm sure the organization is trying/has tried to insulate themselves from garden variety lawsuits like car accidents involving publishers. It's possible the cong could be sued for that kind of thing; although don't the congregations participate in some kind of general insurance fund through the WTS? Not that they would sue for coverage of course, if the WTS didn't cover an incident.

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WTS leader rants against higher education

by hoser in

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on jw tv.

anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

Chaserious

I believe that most of the bizarre doctrines have at least some kind of theological origin - blood, neutrality, holidays, stance on homosexuality, etc.

But higher education I think is based, pure and simple, on the calculated belief that very few would continue to follow blindly after the full college experience. Not only learning how to think critically and ask searching questions, but non-WTS structured exposure to "worldly" people of all stripes and finding out they're not all bad, and realizing that there are many rewarding and challenging paths in life, and it's really cool to be able to choose one.

What other explanation is there for telling generation after generation of JWs you don't need an education because the end is right around the corner? Even with blood, they have softened a bit as some of the hardcore blood doctrine GB members have died out.

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January 14, 2015 ABC recording of Conti/WT case

by Gayle in

i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!

does anyone know how we may be able to access this?

case #a136641.

Chaserious

maybe JWLeaks will know how to get the transcripts

Unlike at the trial court, there is usually no court reporter making a transcript at appeals oral arguments (at least not in any of the states I am familiar with; although I am not certain about California). So you would have to get it from ABC (assuming they make a transcript) or someone else who had permission to record.

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Has anyone ever gotten disfellowshipped for going to University?

by SonoftheTrinity in

jehovah's witnesses claim no one is disfellowshipped for pursuing higher education.

somehow it seems there must be some halfwit sorry excuse for an elder somewhere who personally felt threatened by over educated young whippersnappers and decided to mark every nerd he could point his sweaty little finger with.

Chaserious

I served as a MS while attending university. No special connections; my father was, I believe, a MS at the time, but no relatives who were elders or anything. This was 7-8 years ago; I understand they have since renewed their harder stance on higher educations.

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January 14, 2015 ABC recording of Conti/WT case

by Gayle in

i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!

does anyone know how we may be able to access this?

case #a136641.

Chaserious

I doubt that the media outlets who have permission to record the proceedings will do any kind of live broadcast or publish the entire proceeding. More likely, they will consider including clips from the oral argument in a piece prepared for one of their investigative journalism / news magazine shows. Sorry if this isn't helpful. Oral arguments tend to be rather dry, if that's any consolation.

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2014 Grand Totals!

by Atlantis in

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.. .. atlantis!.

Chaserious

If a salesman worked 11,000 hours for one sale he'd be fired as a dismal, time-wasting slug.

Depends what you are selling. If it's for a sale of some vitamins or cosmetics, yes. But maybe not if it takes 11,000 hours to sell one $45 Million private jet. JWs will tell you that what they are selling is the most valuable thing in the world blah blah, so of course the hours are worth it.

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Looks like ABC New York got the okay.

by truthseekeriam in

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http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

12/19/2014order filed.

upon due consideration, the media request of applicant abc news to make a video recording of oral argument in the above-referenced appeal is granted.

Chaserious

It appears from the First Appellate District's site that all of its regular oral argument sessions are held at 350 McAllister St, San Francisco.

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A possible way for the Watch Tower to generate revenue via their website.

by adjusted knowledge in

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earlier in the week someone posted the potential value of the jw website based on visits and if they used advertisements.

many stated they would never do that but i propose they could.. besides their real estate profit making business model, they have the conventions as cash generating machines.

they give directions to their members to which hotels/motels to use.

Chaserious

They have a direct link to Roku and are using their logo.

Interesting point, Listener. I wonder if they get any revenue from that.

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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

by Londo111 in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

Chaserious

I don't think they will just drop the appeal after so much time and expense just because the news will be there. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to settle now though. What do they owe, around 11 million? It wouldn't surprise me if they may have tried to offer to drop the appeal now if she will take less. Maybe $4 or 5 million?

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A possible way for the Watch Tower to generate revenue via their website.

by adjusted knowledge in

jw
friends

earlier in the week someone posted the potential value of the jw website based on visits and if they used advertisements.

many stated they would never do that but i propose they could.. besides their real estate profit making business model, they have the conventions as cash generating machines.

they give directions to their members to which hotels/motels to use.

Chaserious

I will be surprised if they ever allow advertising on their website, no matter how money hungry they are. It will come across as just too crass, and not for very much money in the grand scheme. Even large companies, whose purpose is to earn profit, rarely advertise on their own sites (except for their own products), as it's not very tasteful. Web traffic money is nothing compared to what they could have earned for advertising on their high visibility Brooklyn buildings over the years.