If they can't be held accountable in this country civilly or criminally they have no reason to send victims to the authorities. It's not illegal... just reprehensible.
Chaserious
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Jehovahs Witness Elder in court for rape
by BlindersOff1 injehova's witness elder in court for rape, lawyer questions why victim's father took case to police instead of church.
http://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/12/14/jehovas-witness-elder-court-rape-lawyer-questions-victims-father-case-police-church/.
lawyer to a jehovah's witness elder who is accused of raping a fellow congregant has wondered why father of the accused reported the matter to police when his church was capable of sorting out such matters.. .
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WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass inshare with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
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Chaserious
Rooster - the people who pulled the hit and run must have been bible studies. Guarantee that's what my Dad would have said.
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WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass inshare with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
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Chaserious
I remember going to the conventions at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia, and most years it seemed to be about 90-100 degress with no breeze in most parts of the stadium. One year a speaker even passed out on the turf. So the best seats in the stadium were those right in front of the upper level openings into the concourse because the breeze would blow through the openings. There were about 40 openings around the stadium, which we usually referred to as breezeways. Anyway, a lot of families would have tarp canopies that would cover about 20 seats, and they all wanted to set up their tarps right in front of the breezeways because then you could be in the shade and have a breeze. Now, they didn't open the doors to the stadium until 8:00 AM, and the brothers who worked inside weren't allowed to reserve seats until 8:00 AM. But without fail, they would be standing right next to the breezeways at 7:59 AM, and would reserve them before anyone else had a fair shot. Once you set up your tarp, you basically claimed all 20 seats in the shade under your tarp (even though they always said you couldn't save seats for people outside of your family.) So, usually after the insiders vultured some of the breezways, there would be about 15 left of the original 40.
Once the doors opened at 8:00 A.M., there would be about 1,000 people trying to sprint up the ramps to plant their tarp in front of a breezeway. There were about 8 steep uphill ramps you had to walk up, each about 50 yards long. So it was basically a quarter mile uphill to get to a breezeway. It was so funny seeing these fat older brothers trying to carry their tarps up the ramps, racing like it was the 100 meter Olymipic finals. Some of them would get all tired out, sweat soaking through their K-Mart short-sleeve dress shirts, and they would hand the tarp off to their preteen son, hoping he could race up the rest of the way and plant the tarp in front of a breezeway like he was Neil Armstrong planting the flag on the moon. All so they could be one of the privileged few not to sweat their asses off for the day. Of course they had to repeat every day, since you could only claim the holy grail for one day at a time.
Also, the unlucky who didn't score breezeway seats would often fade during the day and retreat into the breezway itself to suck up the sweet shade and breeze. In every breezeway, you would see people just sitting on the concrete, some with blankets to lay on. A lot of them looked like homeless people, except in cheap dress clothes instead of dirty t-shirts or sweats. They would be laying down on their blankets on the concrete floor, belongings all around, perhaps their hands clutching onto a bible and a new convention release as they fell asleep on the ground. I even heard some of them snoring at times. They always made announcements during the song break not to sit on the ground in the concourse, but people always did it anyway. The attendants couldn't stop it; it would have been like trying to send rats back onto a sinking ship trying to get all of these people back into the scorching Gehenna of the general attendance seats.
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Why do all religions have to have really stupid beliefs that are an embarrassment.
by mP ini cant understand why some people want to start a new religion and they have to invent new stories, but why oh why do they have to be so stupid and why do people fall for them.
so many religions like the mormons, jw etc all have such down right nutty stupid beliefs its a wonder why they couldnt simply be more realistic... i dont get it..
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Chaserious
It's kind of hard to define weird, isn't it? What if I told you that a spaceman made the earth, the dinosaurs, and of course humans, then a while later came down from outer space onto the world he made, implanted himself inside a virgin, grew up as a human but maneuvered events so he would be executed (you see, even though he came down from outer space, there is really 3 of him, even though it's all just the one guy, so the other 2 could still maneuver events.. even though they don't exist separately), then went back to outer space. But before he died he left instructions on how everyone can worship him forever so they can come up to space too someday. And the ones who worship him the best wear strange pointy hats and/or cloth habits if they are a woman, and can never have sex or get married to show the guy from space how much they like him. This is the story of the mainstream Catholic Church, isn't it? If you never heard a story like that before, how would that sound?
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First Ex-JW Experience with XMas Spirit
by simon17 inso obviously as a recently parting jw, i've never had the hastle, the annoyance or the joy of experiencing christmas.
this year in our office was the first time that we did a secret santa, so i would joke with a few of the people looking for advice because i had never really celebrated christmas.
it was kind of a fun running joke for the past month or two, as they laughed and pitied over my past with me, which they pried about and i explained.
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Chaserious
Wow, what an awesome experience! Merry Christmas!
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Does Anyone View You As A "Prodigal Son" With The Hope You Will Come Back To Jehovah?
by minimus ini know some have thought that about me.
my family used to but i think that hope is dwindling now..
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Chaserious
Probably my mom. A while back she sent my wife a copy of the WT article in the mail about 607 BCE (addressed to my wife since she's only faded, not DF'd like me - apparently good ol' Mom might jeopardize her everlasting life ™ if she wrote her own son's name on the envelope) since she knows that's one of the things that "stumbled" me.
I used to hear various witnesses say that 90% of DF'd witnesses come back. I specifically remember the 90% figure used. I wonder where they got it from or if they just made it up. I don't think it's ever been in print, and I doubt it's true, although just based on my own personal experience it seemed like people were always getting reinstated and at any given time there were always a couple of DF'd people at my hall who attended.
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What was it about Bethel that woke you up?
by cognisonance inone the how many exbethelites thread it was mentioned that some think one either leaves down the path towards apostasy or as a 100% true believer.
i'm curious what experiences did you face at bethel that woke you up (or started to at least)?.
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Chaserious
Awesome thread. Thanks to all who posted - I didn't know a lot of these things about Bethel. My father was at Brooklyn in the 70's before my siblings and I were born, and now that I think about it, I always asked him what it was like at Bethel, and he never really had anything substantive to say. He would say it was a good experience, and he would talk about some of his friends from Bethel, but I can't remember a single thing that he ever said he enjoyed other than (in my words) being the closest he came to getting the college dorm experience.
I also lived in Cobble Hill this past summer and I would go jogging in Brooklyn in the morning and would usually run through the promenade. A few times a saw young Bethel-looking guys walking all alone along the promenade, kind of sad looking, gazing out over the river. I wondered if maybe they were new Bethellites from somewhere far from Brooklyn talking a walk before or after morning worship, wondering what they had gotten themselves into.
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10 things that happened in 2012 - my review
by cedars inlast year i did a review of 2011 for the forum.
this was more of a review that focussed on some of the awful stuff that was printed in the literature that year - the first year of my awakening.. 2012 has been more interesting from the point of view of things actually happening outside the literature.
i thought it might be nice to take a look back and put some of these events in chronological order.... .
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Chaserious
The deaf masturbation video just isn't the same after you gave it away earlier.
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If Cash Flow Ends, What Then?
by metatron init's worth thinking about - what will they do if their cash flow virtually dries up?
would they "turn on" the friends and try to "punish" them by threatening to close assembly halls and drop the awake completely?.
could witnesses in western nations fade away from the "ministry" if there is almost nothing left to offer at the doors?.
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Chaserious
I wonder how smart they are with organizational planning and investing. If they are smart, I would imagine they'd have something like $2 Billion in investible assets, from the sale of real-estate and surpluses in WWW donations. I imagine, well invested, they could get around a 10% return, tax free. If they're that well prepared, and refuse to spend money they don't have coming in, I would think that no matter how much contributions dry up in wealthy countries, they could shrink HQ to a small size, cut back on global projects, and run everything almost in perpetuity on $200 Mil a year in investment income plus whatever donations they are still getting.
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Circuit Accounts Servants Confesses how the SCAM WORKS!!
by JT inyes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.
i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.
as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?
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Chaserious
They might not be rolling around in a Rolls Royce, but someone has to pay for those Bethel heavies' trips to Bora Bora so they can write an article for the Awake about the local customs, the flora and fauna and how it's all a marvel of creation.