Gutsy move to stick with Kaepernick mid-season after Smith got healthy, but it's really paid off so far. I don't think anyone considered the Niners a superbowl favorite with Smith, but with Kaepernick, who knows. Although for game of the week, Vikings v. Texans should be good, too. Two best RBs in football, going head to head.
Chaserious
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The NFL game to watch this week
by Glander insan francisco 49'ers vs the red hot seattle seahawks.... i am torn as a 49'er fan and a current 'hawks fan.. vegas is giving sf a 53-47% edge.
that's pretty close..
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Will the Watchtowers growth in the third world keep them around for decades to come?
by tootired2care ini suspect the wt is going to continue to see slowing growth in all western lands as time goes on.
it seems to me though that there is so many potential suckers out there in the third world that will keep coming into the wt because of lack of internet, education or falling victim to love bombing as many of us did here at one time.
i think it's going to get really tough for them as the western land money dries up though.
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Chaserious
I don't think they will be "closing their doors or going down in flames" in our lifetime. Even in developed countries, they won't just vanish, although I think we will soon see numbers declining. There is still a contingent of diehard young people in the U.S., as well as some old folks who have their houses, bank accounts, etc bequeathed to the WTBTS. I'm sure they have lots of $$$ earning a good return in sophisticated investment vehicles at HQ, and they are still land rich. Worst case, they can downsize bethel to a few hundred and rule from their compound in Orange County.
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Final prayer after fieldservice today.
by El_Guapo inhi guys,.
i was asked to give final prayer today after the field service meeting.
i asked for jah to bless and comfort the families of the newtown, ct massacre.
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Chaserious
Not surprised. I remember going to the meeting on Sept 11, 2001. It was a Tuesday, and we had our TMS & Service meeting on Tuesdays in my hall. I was a 19 year old MS, and I remember it not only because it was 9/11, but because I has just been appointed and had my first "big boy" part that was a part in the meeting reserved for Ministerial Servants or Elders. I wondered if anything would be said about 9/11, and it seemed to me like something should. My part had nothing to do with any topic that could be tied to the subject and I basically just gave it straight, afraid to deviate with it being my first part and all. Nothing was said about the attacks except in the prayer, and it had something to do with preaching to the people affected. I thought that was terrible to have a "Christian Meeting" and say nothing about the people affected by the events that very day. But I felt badly about it for a while after, because I really was as much to blame as everyone else.
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Are you at the point of your life where you speak out boldly with JWs?
by jam inwhat a wonderful feeling.
they think i am nuts.
lol.
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Chaserious
I hardly ever see JWs I knew out and about since I live a half hour away from the KH I used to attend. But I couldn't help it once at a family wedding where there were only 4 JWs there, including my father and mother in law. I went right up to him in front of some people who knew he was my father in law and say hi with a big smile and stuck my hand out for a handshake. He didn't shake my hand and walked away. Made my night. Made for good conversation with my table too. Moshe, you are so right about how it only works when you play by their rules.
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the dumbest thing a CO ever said
by nowwhat? in"if it was'nt for the preaching work there would be millions more witnesses" - he was saying jehovah wants quality not quantity.. si i'm thinking, what's the difference as long as he has a people that live by bible standards and are moral.
maybe sharing their hope and faith with friends and relatives on a casual basis?
how backwards is that?.
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Actually, he is probably right. I don't know about millions though. Door to door work brings practically nobody in, and it's a turn off to some who are unbelieving-relative sympathizer types who don't want to join because of the embarrassment that is peddling magazines door to door.
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So.....hi!
by FaceTheFacts innot really good at introductions.
i am an active jw who has my doubts about certain things like the bible as a whole but im slowly but surely wading through them.
just of curiousity: what on earth has happened to this board?
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Chaserious
Welcome, FaceTheFacts. I didn't find your post insulting, although I could see how some who find those kind of topics engaging might. I tend to find some topics here more interesting than the others, and just stay out of the conversations I'm not interested in. One of the things I had to get used to is that there is no filter here, like there is when conversing in a JW setting. I imagine lots of JWs filter what they really think or wonder about when talking with others socially, at the hall, etc (I know I had to).
Here, you are going to find people of all viewpoints. There are definitely a few active on this site who would say that if it's raining out today, it must be the Watchtower Society's fault. I do find it a little unfair that they tend to get away with that kind of thing, but "apologists", who are really often active JWs with sincere questions sometimes get ganged up on. I think you'll find a lot of interesting things to read about and discuss here, and I hope if a few individuals aren't so nice, you don't hold it against the rest of us. After all, we don't claim to be the best group of people on earth or anything like that! =)
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Jehovahs Witness Elder in court for rape
by BlindersOff1 injehova's witness elder in court for rape, lawyer questions why victim's father took case to police instead of church.
http://www.lusakatimes.com/2012/12/14/jehovas-witness-elder-court-rape-lawyer-questions-victims-father-case-police-church/.
lawyer to a jehovah's witness elder who is accused of raping a fellow congregant has wondered why father of the accused reported the matter to police when his church was capable of sorting out such matters.. .
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Chaserious
If they can't be held accountable in this country civilly or criminally they have no reason to send victims to the authorities. It's not illegal... just reprehensible.
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WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass inshare with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
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Chaserious
Rooster - the people who pulled the hit and run must have been bible studies. Guarantee that's what my Dad would have said.
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WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass inshare with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
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Chaserious
I remember going to the conventions at Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia, and most years it seemed to be about 90-100 degress with no breeze in most parts of the stadium. One year a speaker even passed out on the turf. So the best seats in the stadium were those right in front of the upper level openings into the concourse because the breeze would blow through the openings. There were about 40 openings around the stadium, which we usually referred to as breezeways. Anyway, a lot of families would have tarp canopies that would cover about 20 seats, and they all wanted to set up their tarps right in front of the breezeways because then you could be in the shade and have a breeze. Now, they didn't open the doors to the stadium until 8:00 AM, and the brothers who worked inside weren't allowed to reserve seats until 8:00 AM. But without fail, they would be standing right next to the breezeways at 7:59 AM, and would reserve them before anyone else had a fair shot. Once you set up your tarp, you basically claimed all 20 seats in the shade under your tarp (even though they always said you couldn't save seats for people outside of your family.) So, usually after the insiders vultured some of the breezways, there would be about 15 left of the original 40.
Once the doors opened at 8:00 A.M., there would be about 1,000 people trying to sprint up the ramps to plant their tarp in front of a breezeway. There were about 8 steep uphill ramps you had to walk up, each about 50 yards long. So it was basically a quarter mile uphill to get to a breezeway. It was so funny seeing these fat older brothers trying to carry their tarps up the ramps, racing like it was the 100 meter Olymipic finals. Some of them would get all tired out, sweat soaking through their K-Mart short-sleeve dress shirts, and they would hand the tarp off to their preteen son, hoping he could race up the rest of the way and plant the tarp in front of a breezeway like he was Neil Armstrong planting the flag on the moon. All so they could be one of the privileged few not to sweat their asses off for the day. Of course they had to repeat every day, since you could only claim the holy grail for one day at a time.
Also, the unlucky who didn't score breezeway seats would often fade during the day and retreat into the breezway itself to suck up the sweet shade and breeze. In every breezeway, you would see people just sitting on the concrete, some with blankets to lay on. A lot of them looked like homeless people, except in cheap dress clothes instead of dirty t-shirts or sweats. They would be laying down on their blankets on the concrete floor, belongings all around, perhaps their hands clutching onto a bible and a new convention release as they fell asleep on the ground. I even heard some of them snoring at times. They always made announcements during the song break not to sit on the ground in the concourse, but people always did it anyway. The attendants couldn't stop it; it would have been like trying to send rats back onto a sinking ship trying to get all of these people back into the scorching Gehenna of the general attendance seats.
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Why do all religions have to have really stupid beliefs that are an embarrassment.
by mP ini cant understand why some people want to start a new religion and they have to invent new stories, but why oh why do they have to be so stupid and why do people fall for them.
so many religions like the mormons, jw etc all have such down right nutty stupid beliefs its a wonder why they couldnt simply be more realistic... i dont get it..
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Chaserious
It's kind of hard to define weird, isn't it? What if I told you that a spaceman made the earth, the dinosaurs, and of course humans, then a while later came down from outer space onto the world he made, implanted himself inside a virgin, grew up as a human but maneuvered events so he would be executed (you see, even though he came down from outer space, there is really 3 of him, even though it's all just the one guy, so the other 2 could still maneuver events.. even though they don't exist separately), then went back to outer space. But before he died he left instructions on how everyone can worship him forever so they can come up to space too someday. And the ones who worship him the best wear strange pointy hats and/or cloth habits if they are a woman, and can never have sex or get married to show the guy from space how much they like him. This is the story of the mainstream Catholic Church, isn't it? If you never heard a story like that before, how would that sound?