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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Chaserious

  Yes, let's hope for a good outcome for Ms. Conti after all of this.
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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Chaserious

  If the WT lose this appeal do they have an automatic right to appeal to the California Supreme Court or could they be refused further right of appeal?

  The California Supreme Court would have the discretion to accept the appeal or not.  They can refuse to hear it without explaining why.  If there is a further petition for review, it should be granted or denied within 4-6 months from when the Court of Appeal opinion is released.  

  Of course, if the CA Supreme Court accepts the appeal, that would trigger a whole new round of briefing, oral argument, etc.
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  Conti Appeal Oral Arguments slated for 9 A.M., Jan. 14, 2014. Recap of Defendant Watchtower's Complaint of Errors for your info.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  conti appeal hearing-summary of watchtowers complaint of errors with plaintiff's reply.

  the following statements were taken from the introduction of respondents brief a136641 -attorney richard simons' response for plaintiff.

  defendants argue that the affirmative duty imposed by the trial court impinges on their religious freedom.

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  Chaserious

  So confused as to how long this could go on??  Does anyone know if this is the end of the line after this decision? 

  The panel will issue a written opinion within 90 days after the oral argument date.  It could be sooner; 30-60 day turnaround is common.

  Then the decision can be appealed to the California Supreme Court.  That must be filed within 10 days after the court of appeals opinion is filed.

  
  
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  Experience in a talk

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week we had an elder giving a talk, cant remember the title.. the thing that was of interest is the experience he gave:.

  "a brother who was working in a hospital had to leave his job which was paying him good money because the nurses wanted to sleep with him and they kept putting notes for him on his desk!".

  this is not the first time i hear similar experience.

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  Chaserious

  Is he a doctor? Because if I have learned anything from all the hospital shows on TV it is that the nurses always want to sleep with the doctors.
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  Is the Watchtower Shifting All Financial and Legal Risk to Local Elders, are they 100% liable for Negligence?

  by Trailer Park Pioneer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the watchtower organization leaving behind for all the kingdom halls after their done siphoning them dry?

  who is going to pay for a lawsuit or damages when some incompetent elders or three are busted for something very bad?

  will the watchtower help or leave them alone for the sharks to shred to pieces?

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  Chaserious

  the BoE would be any new plaintiff's first target.

  Individuals are never a plaintiff's first target unless they are covered by insurance or top 1%-ish wealthy. 

  Whether there is organizatonal liability depends on what is involved in the lawsuit.  I cant think of what kind of lawsuits would expose elders to liability on a frequent basis.  I dont recall ever hearing of an elder exposed to personal liability for a congregation matter; not that it couldn't have happened.

  I'm sure the organization is trying/has tried to insulate themselves from garden variety lawsuits like car accidents involving publishers.  It's possible the cong could be sued for that kind of thing; although don't the congregations participate in some kind of general insurance fund through the WTS?  Not that they would sue for coverage of course, if the WTS didn't cover an incident.
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  WTS leader rants against higher education

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  on jw tv.

  anthony morris is ranting against higher education.

  he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.

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  Chaserious

  I believe that most of the bizarre doctrines have at least some kind of theological origin - blood, neutrality, holidays, stance on homosexuality, etc.

  But higher education I think is based, pure and simple, on the calculated belief that very few would continue to follow blindly after the full college experience.  Not only learning how to think critically and ask searching questions, but non-WTS structured exposure to "worldly" people of all stripes and finding out they're not all bad, and realizing that there are many rewarding and challenging paths in life, and it's really cool to be able to choose one.

  What other explanation is there for telling generation after generation of JWs you don't need an education because the end is right around the corner?  Even with blood, they have softened a bit as some of the hardcore blood doctrine GB members have died out.
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  January 14, 2015 ABC recording of Conti/WT case

  by Gayle in

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  2. child-abuse

  i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!

  does anyone know how we may be able to access this?

  case #a136641.

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  Chaserious

  maybe JWLeaks will know how to get the transcripts

  Unlike at the trial court, there is usually no court reporter making a transcript at appeals oral arguments (at least not in any of the states I am familiar with; although I am not certain about California).  So you would have to get it from ABC (assuming they make a transcript) or someone else who had permission to record. 

  
  
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  Has anyone ever gotten disfellowshipped for going to University?

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses claim no one is disfellowshipped for pursuing higher education.

  somehow it seems there must be some halfwit sorry excuse for an elder somewhere who personally felt threatened by over educated young whippersnappers and decided to mark every nerd he could point his sweaty little finger with.

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  Chaserious

  I served as a MS while attending university.  No special connections; my father was, I believe, a MS at the time, but no relatives who were elders or anything.  This was 7-8 years ago; I understand they have since renewed their harder stance on higher educations. 
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  January 14, 2015 ABC recording of Conti/WT case

  by Gayle in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i would really like be able to hear/see the "oral arguments" of this case!

  does anyone know how we may be able to access this?

  case #a136641.

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  Chaserious

  I doubt that the media outlets who have permission to record the proceedings will do any kind of live broadcast or publish the entire proceeding.  More likely, they will consider including clips from the oral argument in a piece prepared for one of their investigative journalism / news magazine shows.  Sorry if this isn't helpful.  Oral arguments tend to be rather dry, if that's any consolation. 
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  2014 Grand Totals!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

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  .. .. atlantis!.

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  Chaserious

  If a salesman worked 11,000 hours for one sale he'd be fired as a dismal, time-wasting slug. 

  Depends what you are selling.  If it's for a sale of some vitamins or cosmetics, yes.  But maybe not if it takes 11,000 hours to sell one $45 Million private jet.  JWs will tell you that what they are selling is the most valuable thing in the world blah blah, so of course the hours are worth it.