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SKOAL VIKINGS, HONOR YOUR NAME,
GO GET THAT FIRST DOWN,
THEN GET A TOUCHDOWN.
ROCK?EM... SOCK?EM...
FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!! FIGHT!!!

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YOU?LL HEAR US YELL FOR MORE.
V - I - K - I - N - G - S
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SKOAL!!!

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What is happening to our kids?

by xenawarrior in

jw
friends

need some input from you folks.. my daughter is 15 1/2.

she had her best friend for a sleepover last night and this morning my daughter tells me that her friend attempted suicide last week.

this is not the first of her friends to do this and i guess i'm concerned about our youth in general.

joannadandy

One could argue it's the oversexualized images on tv, teens with horrible body images and self-esteem. Tied to that, one could argue, it's the tremendous pressure to be a success in life. To know what you want and go get it. (Who the hell knows what they want at 25,35,45 let alone 15). One might argue it's high stakes testing and this pressure to measure up or get cut out. Or maybe it's our tendency to alienate ourselves from society--the new loss of community and therefore loss of self. Blame it on TV, blame it on divorce, blame it on the economy.

Suicide is kind of an all or nothing thing. It could be your daughters friend is experiencing or feeling any number of those things I mentioned without even knowing it. Or maybe it's none of those things. Maybe her depression is somehow genetic, her mom sounds pretty apathetic--it's no wonder where she learned it.

I dunno what to tell you, having been a 15 year old who thought about suicide alot (starting in third grade) to a 16 year old who had too many life experiences she wasn't supposed to have at 16 and actually attempting, it's hard to pinpoint why I considered this the only way. Since then I have gotten a lot better coping skills and communication skills. The only thing that saved me was a desire to live. How do you foster that? Again--it's anyone's guess.

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Help me understand "Boy meets Worldly Girl"

by jgnat in

jw
friends

wavering jw boy meets worldly girl.

boy confesses he is a jw, but it is "no big deal".

boy is polite and cleans under his fingernails.

joannadandy

I also know it happens between JW girl and worldly boy, too.

Me!

What is the attraction - forbidden fruit? Was JW boy ever really serious about this relationship? When he tells the girl that the JW life won't interfere, is he lying only to her or also lying to himself?

Obvioualy I can only speak to my experiences as a JW girl trying to fall in love...I never dated a JW guy, I only dated worldly boys. I knew there were no men IN the organaization that I was attracted to, in hindsight, we had different life goals. I wanted to go to college and have a good and stable job, live on my own for a while, BEFORE I got married. Next thing I knew I blinked and all the JW guys were married.

The attraction had nothing to do with forbidden fruit (for me). Honestly, I hated liking non-jw guys. I knew what hardship it would entail. So often I would tell them right up front. Some of them I even tried to convert (I quickly gave up that endeavor). Any relationship I have persued has been serious. When you tell your non-jw bf/gf your JW life won't interfere, your sincere prayer is that it won't. I remember thinking so many times--please let this work, please let my parents not give me any crap, please let this all somehow work out (ofcourse I was living in denial). It was for me a BIG LYING TO MYSELF charade. I know that now. But I was very naive, and hoping love could conqur all, and all that hallmark crap.

I soon realized what I was doing--and how stupid it was, and how it would never work out. I also thought about the fact that if I want a non-jw boyfriend/husband that maybe I want a non-jw life for myself. That's actuallly what got me thinking about leaving. While I had always had questions, I never considered leaving until I realized I would never find the answers to my questions within that organization.

joannadandy

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