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  What % of your Congregation is Pioneering in April?

  by Open mind in

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  our family is part of the 32% unappreciative spiritual loser class.

  not regular or auxiliary.. .

  our congo has 51% aux pioneering in april.. .

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  stuckinamovement

  60% here. CO Visit this month probably helps increase the ratio.
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  Hi, new to this forum. Figured I'd let everyone know about my story before I got involved.

  by JonathanH in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.

  we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.

  maybe this was how jehovah came about?

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  stuckinamovement

  Welcome to the forum man. Your experiences are shared by many on this board.

  SIAM
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  Are we going to ban people who threaten our beliefs? Great Article

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/03/pastor_fired_for_backing_rob_b.html.

  really interesting how most folks can see that it is not right to shun someone because they choose to question their long held beliefs.

  the only difference between this pastor and witnesses who question what they have been taught, is instead of just firing you the watchtower organization will force your friends and family to shun you.

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  http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/03/pastor_fired_for_backing_rob_b.html

  Really interesting how most folks can see that it is not right to shun someone because they choose to question their long held beliefs.

  The only difference between this pastor and Witnesses who question what they have been taught, is instead of just firing you the Watchtower organization will force your friends and family to shun you.

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  NEED HELP Proving that 607 BC is false and list of flip-flops

  by doubtful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this post is going to seem erratic to some, but i'm afraid it's the best i can do.

  i can only write on this board during the spare moments i have when my mother is not in the home.

  so i need to get as much info in per thread as possible given the time constraints.

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  Shovel,

  Is it possible that the WTBS got these doctrinal assertions wrong? In 70 CE every sign that Jesus gave his disciples was fulfilled. Jerusalem was destroyed. Period. The idea that there is a coming destruction for all mankind that will fulfill all of the signs again on a greater scale is a joke. I think that as part of the Great Awakening many people wanted to see the return of Christ so bad that they convinced themselves that it would happen in their lifetime. They thought to themselves "how much worse can the world get?" They looked at Matthew 24 and twisted and contorted to see the fulfillment of the signs in every single world event. Earthquakes- "its the sign! Wars- "its the sign! Food Shortages- its the sign! Pestilence oh dear its the sign! Look the good news is preached throughout the earth! Its the sign!

  The Society takes those signs that Jesus gave, combines them with nutcase Adventist based chronology and presto gets the end of the Gentile times in 1914. Instead of "every eye seeing" Jesus's return it suddenly became an "invisible" return. He has been invisibly ruling for almost 100 years. It is so out there it is comical. I can't believe that I used to support it and defend it myself. Just because an organization insists that it is absolutely right doesn't mean it is.

  Did you know that I can fly? I do it all the time. No one can see me though because I do it while wearing an invisibility cloak. Just believe me. If you don't believe that I can fly do don't deserve to see me do it anyways. Silly huh?

  Hey I don't want to be a jerk about this, but can you prove your assertions in another way than simply cutting and pasting false doctrine that requires someone to simply turn their mind off and believe?? Use logic, history, science to prove your assertions. God did give most of us a brain and he expects us to use it.

  (Oh and sorry to the OP for hijacking the thread.)

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  Circuit Accounts Servants Confesses how the SCAM WORKS!!

  by JT in

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  2. friends

  yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.

  i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.

  as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?

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  I might be able to help. I audited the Circuit accounts several times in the past and might still have the copies of the forms. I will look in my files.

  SIAM
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  Do you appreciate the sacrifices brothers made in 1927 so that we can preach on Sundays?

  by miseryloveselders in

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  2. friends

  the may 2011 km has an article on page 2 entitled, "could you share in the ministry on sundays?

  1. it was the sabbath, a day when most jews in philippi rested.

  paul and his companions were visiting the city during one of their missionary tours.

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  Lovelylil,

  I remeber getting counseled as a MS for not being out on Saturday. The reasoning was the same, " the brothers need to see you out on saturday." It didn't matter if I was out on other days, it only mattered what other people think of your service to Jehovah.

  Sundays suck, Everyone is watching footbal and no one is interested in talking to you.

  SIAM
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  Assembly/Convention Accounting

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just having had my circuit assembly recently, i felt that the expenses in a watchtower-owned building seemed extremely over-inflated.

  over $9000 for two days.

  there were approximately 750-800 in attendance each day.

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  my three sons nailed it and is correct.

  They also include a capital replacement cost figured into the operational costs.

  The last business meeting I went to the expenses included:

  The DO apartment with expenses such as Rent, Electricity, Groceries, Satellite, INTERNET, cell phones for him and the Mrs.

  CO apartment with the same expenses + new mattresses

  CO medical procedure

  The cost to fly the bethel boy and his wife out for the weekend.

  A large assembly occupancy of 50-60K sq ft. and 800 people will cost operationally around $1200 a day. (disclaimer- only if everyone uses one paper towel)

  SIAM
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  DEADLY THEOLOGY - a History of the Blood Issue and What's Next

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of all of jehovahs witnesses peculiar ideology that attracts the most attention is their controversial and inconsistent prohibition of transfusions of a red biological fluidblooddonated by caring people to help save lives.. in light of the fact that patients in need of blood seldom require all of the components of whole blood, modern medical treatment calls for only that portion needed for a particular condition or disease, and this is referred to as blood component therapy.

  [1] the following information is centered on this therapy that is being used to save jehovahs witnesses lives.. by barbara anderson.

  "echr point number 136, 139http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?action=html&documentid=869647&portal=hbkm&source=externalbydocnumber&table=f69a27fd8fb86142bf01c1166dea398649 -- http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articles/pmc479295/.

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  I think they will drop it to a conscience matter. They have watered it down to the point where a Witness can take 100% of blood if it is broken down enough. It is doctrinal and semantical masturbation. They are playing with it with it enough, just come out and do it.
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  craziest reason elders wanted to have a commitee meeting with you

  by glentrevette in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a sister who was a tenant in my house and her car was leaking oil all over my newly paved driveway before she moved in i had a condition on the lease that said if her car leaked oil she couldnt park there and i told here after she moved in that she was being deceptive to me when she said her car didnt leak oil she was good friends with a lot of powerful elders in the hall and would you believe they asked to meet with me 3 elders in the back room of the library because they said i had called this sister a liar i got out of it only after i produced a copy of the lease and pictures of the oil mess if i hadnt of had pictures maybe i would of been dfd.

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  many years ago, I was strongly counseled in the back room by two elders after giving my fiance a ride to the meeting without a chaperone. Retards
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  Best way to step down from being a servant

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey i'm wondering if anyone can give some good advice on how to step down in the safest way.. i have served as an ms for a number of years, but can't do it anymore.

  i know too much i want to fade in the future when i get some family things straightened out.

  i can't move right now so that's out unfortunately.. what should i tell the body?

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  Ray,

  When you say that you are no longer qualified to serve they will start to interrogate your wife to find out why. That is the opening they need to go after you.

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